-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Steve makes me think of a couple of other wish list items.
On Jul 3, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Steve Huston wrote: > On 7/2/07 11:06 PM, Terri Oda wrote: >> - better address obfuscation (maybe by generating pages through cgi) > > I run a few Wordpress sites, and there's a plugin I use called > PHPEnkoder which does a good job of this. I have this idea that you could gateway messages from an archive or mailing list to and from a bulletin board forum. Maybe this doesn't fall within the scope of the archiver because I could see a 'forum queue' like we have an nntp queue, but in that case, being able to calculate an archive url without talking to the archiver becomes important again. It would be nice in that case to put a link to the archive message in the forum post. >> * MUAs usually make URLs clickable. An new Archive could be used >> when posts are distributed, in the footer, so that each message has a >> link to the whole thread in the Archive. > > This would be a Godsend. A group at work here runs an old homebrewed > exploder, and a few years ago I tried to convert them to Mailman. > They > liked everything they saw, up until the point where they couldn't > refer > to some kind of short and simple message number, and get right to that > message in the archive. This reminds me, I would love to have a link in an archive message that I could click to get the message sent to me, as it originally appeared on the mailing list. If I had that, I'd never need to locally save another mailing list post. I'd just search for the one I wanted, go to the archive, click on the "send it to me" link, then do a normal reply in my mail reader. > The current system generates a number based on > a simple incrementing index of the list, and many months after a > mailing > people will refer to "message #483", and know they can view it at > http://hostname/foo/listname/483.html - which is also posted in the > footer of the message sent out. Of course, if the archives were based > on Message-ID headers, this may make such a number a bit unwieldly, > but > if it were some kind of simple-ish system I might finally get rid of > those old lists :> This would be possible with today's system, but it leads to unstable urls, especially when you consider archive scrubbing (which, come to think of it, is another wish list item ;). We'd like for an admin to be able to easily pull an archive message, but it's even worse than that. Sometimes an admin has to scrub the actual backing message store (e.g. today's mbox file). This will change the message counts and thus the incremental indexes. Maybe a way to think about this is that the canonical url is based on the message-id, but then there's some way to distill even this down to a tinyurl or simple integer that would be stable in the face of full archive regenerations. - -Barry -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iQCVAwUBRormRHEjvBPtnXfVAQIHYwP/fLnY/pebRlhrFeUpPJu5VfZNyR24oLId qjZ4F2MHW25LcemvGzpeUSgXRQJk2LQIQKSlYYtTM+8xcStey4IvDnPLmzX5MQOC xiI9PznZHdLmbF9SaUDZQZBRKZhqCNeslZ5zpnN35KStL3NlTc6PkBylzIC7Y47F a3RxMEOgMaA= =HM9I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp