--On Saturday, March 29, 2008 3:51 PM +0900 "Stephen J. Turnbull" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you equate self-defense with justice, you are wrong.  Vigilantes go
> beyond self-defense, and that's where they go wrong.

We're quibbling over definitions. It's impossible to find agreement under 
such circumstances.

> No, but he's going to do it anyway.  The policy you want (unless
> you've got something personal against him) is to never see spam and
> backscatter, and to receive the valid mails that pass through his
> server.  You can't have that if you blacklist him.  You can't have
> that if you don't.

FWIW, I use blacklists via SpamAssassin, invoked from a Sendmail milter, so 
it's not a black and white decision that relies on a single such list. A 
degree of consensus is required.

It might be straightforward to cook up some SA rules that recognize mailman 
backscatter and drop it, at the risk of dropping legitimate bounce notices.
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