* Terri Oda <te...@zone12.com>: > Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: >>> Can we add a search box for options? It might not be necessary on >>> the smaller pages, but the full admin/owner interface looks like >>> it's still going to be sufficiently busy that it could help. >> >> We can. But I, personally, would want to wait for usability test and see if >> we >> can do without it simply because it makes the interface more complex. > > Well, here's some user data from a recent mailman-users post > > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/msg53494.html > > This is a *common* way for people to find things in the current mailman > admin interface, sadly. I've watched people do it and had people tell > me in person that's how they find things too. Most people who maintain > mailing lists do settings changes infrequently, and often under some > time pressure. And they never have time to learn the menu hierarchy > unless they maintain a lot of different types of lists. And often not > even then. There's a lot of options there, and most people nowadays are > used to the google method of finding things. ;) > > I totally understand not wanting to add too much extra, but... my user > observations thus far imply that this is a feature that would be used > heavily.
Agreed. If it helps we will find a place for it. >> The test scenario affects the outcome of the test. We need to standardize the >> test before we run it. I might be able to get some people from a usability >> lab >> we work with help us. Let me check that. > > I'm an academic researcher professionally, so I'm well aware of issues > in testing methodologies. But honestly? Don't get caught up in doing > Perfect Science here. Even a quick, dirty, messy user study would give Believe me. I won't. ;) > us a lot of information that could be useful. The current interface > suffers badly from lack of user testing, and I'd hate for the same to be > true of the new one. Yes. > If you need more help with user studies, I should be able get some help > from the usability research lab here. I know one of the profs here > expressed interest in mailman usability in the past, and we may be able > to find people willing to work on the problem. That would be the perfect opportunity. Please ask him if he's still interested. The question is: How do I get there. I life in Munich, Germany. p...@rick -- state of mind Agentur für Kommunikation, Design und Softwareentwicklung http://www.state-of-mind.de Franziskanerstraße 15 Telefon +49 89 3090 4664 81669 München Telefax +49 89 3090 4666 Amtsgericht München Partnerschaftsregister PR 563 _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9
