Cristóbal Palmer writes: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 01:03:20PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > The question is "what are they protecting?" My claim is that if > > you're protecting economic resources (bandwidth, accurate counts of > > real users) they may be more or less useful. If it's a security issue > > -- including ways of harvesting email addresses that involve > > subscribing -- though, you're busted. > > To my mind the main resources we're protecting are moderator time and > site owner time, and we're admittedly cost shifting onto subscribers > for lists where CAPTCHAs are enabled.
I consider that a valid tradeoff, with the breakeven point to be determined by the moderators/list owners/site owners. OK, I'm happy again, no crazy people here. :-) > But think of it this way: if what mailman does is provide a plugin > spot for something external to do CAPTCHA or CAPTCHA-like work, then > some non-CAPTCHA method could be inserted that doesn't impose user > load. But IMO the pipeline architecture already does that. I haven't looked closely at the Mailman 3 webserver, but my understanding is that it gets a pipeline too. It seems to me that once you have that (and IMHO that is extremely desirable just by analogy to the list processing pipeline, which I have written several Handlers for), the rest is going to be pretty CAPTCHA-specific, and quite possibly specific to the particular CAPTCHA implementation. It might be worth recommending a third-party implementation of a best-of-breed (reCAPTCHA?) plugin or even providing one ourselves, but I plan to leave that decision to Barry, as long as the documentation for any such feature points out the limitations of the technology. > Also, sorry about your stolen bike. :( Don't be. It was a $150 bike, and the Minister of Finance in my house approved purchase of a $670 replacement. :-) All I really lost was a junk lock and about $50 resale value. _______________________________________________ Mailman-Developers mailing list Mailman-Developers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-developers Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-developers/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9