Terri,

For Systers, is it better to try to access Postorius through its REST API or by 
directly including it as a django app?

In particular, using Django 1.5 and the custom user module feature that it 
provides along with the scheme that I outlined earlier provides an easy path to 
developing and integrating features such as the essays into the user profile.
Basically, we share a common User model.  Someone can start by using the 
standard django.contrib model and ignore the Postorius specific parts.

I am willing to implement the pieces (I estimate needing only a day or two if I 
do a simple version), but I also think that it would be an appropriate task for 
one of the students.

Richard

On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Terri Oda <te...@zone12.com> wrote:
> On 13-04-29 11:28 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>> Actually, there aren't any students explicitly discussing extra profile
>> information in their proposals.  They talk airily about "extended REST
>> API" or similarly generic terms.  None talk about storage or
>> representation of profile information.  (OK, it was 3am, my memory is
>> fallible.  I don't remember any, though.)
>> 
> 
> Oh!  I think I understand some of the confusion now.  I thought I'd said at 
> the beginning why I was starting this thread at all, which is primarily 
> because Systers has a student project that needs extra profile info.  There 
> are also a collection of students with minor features that would use the data 
> store that they've used to pad out projects that might otherwise be too short 
> (For example, see some of the ideas Peter Markou mentioned in his recent 
> post).  But now that you mention it, I've been talking to a lot of folk on 
> IRC and they often don't tell me if they're applying with Mailman or Systers, 
> so maybe there's more of them with Systers than with Mailman?
> 
> 
> For those not familiar, Systers runs a heavily modified version of Mailman 
> 2.1.  They'd like to switch to Mailman 3 shortly after we release Mailman 
> Suite (whenever that's going to be), but they've got a few features that 
> they'll need to either have integrated to core Mailman or maintained as 
> branches.  This year, they've got a project set up to port one of them to 
> Mailman 3/Postorius as part of preparing them for that.
> 
> The specific feature they're hoping to add this year stores essays that 
> people write when they subscribe.  It's currently done with a database 
> grafted on to Mailman 2.1 that was being used for another extended feature, 
> but obviously if we're going to mentor such a project for Mailman 3, we'd 
> like to use something at least approximating a real data store design.   The 
> problem is that the Systers mentors are mostly used to systers-mailman, based 
> on 2.1, and I'm not sure anyone will have the Mailman 3.0 knowledge to guide 
> a student through a halfway reasonable design, so I asked here in order to 
> help them out so that their student could start on the essays (likely to be 
> the easier part of her project) right at the beginning of the GSoC period.  
> If we can't come to a moderate consensus on that design, I should be telling 
> the Systers folk that this project won't be able to run this year, but I 
> honestly figured we'd have a simple design after a couple of posts... I 
> wasn't counting on aut
 hentication blowing up to a huge argument, and I don't have time for it do so 
if we want to make a good decision about this specific project.
> 
> So yeah, totally cool to be thinking about the more advanced projects in 
> general, but I started this thread due to a specific need for a "good enough 
> approximation for this Mailman suite release" version of the extra data 
> store, and I still need a consensus on that that's either implemented or 
> simple enough for a student to do in the first week of GSoC.   I think we're 
> pretty close to that point, but I'm not sure it's yet described in a way that 
> we can hand it off safely to a student and get a REST API that actually 
> meaningfully matches the discussion within a couple of days.  Probably we 
> need an actual set of doctests for the student to work against next and then 
> we'll be there.
> 
> Incidentally, I've been trying to get the students interested in this 
> particular Systers project to come to this mailing list and join in the 
> discussion, but it's become *very* intimidating to take part in this thread, 
> which is the other reason I need folk to take a step back.
> 
> Terri
> 
> 

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