On 4/7/20 10:21 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,
I wonder if mass subscribe should be exempted from the ban list check,
what do you all think? It would be convenient for me, as students
often change or add personal addresses, and I have to do an unban,
subscribe, reban dance. (See my use case below.)
Please don't do that. If an ISP is on a Feedback Loop and receives spam
reports from list members, then that ISP has to remove those list
members if the list owner won't. Adding those spam reporters to the ban
list can prevent the list owner from resubscribing those troublesome
members who will just be reporting their list posts as spam all over again.
Richard Damon writes:
> I presume this is working like MM2, where the ban list is checked
> at the subscription request point,
That's correct. I'm a little surprised that this works, actually,
since the mass subscribe function is *also* prevented from subscribing
banned addresses. Apparently the ban check is just a little bit after
where mass subscribe comes in, but earlier in the chain than the
moderation hold and dance. Which makes sense, since to point of a ban
is to save the moderator work!
> yes, you can have subscription requests and subscriptions from a
> banned email address, those addresses just can't start the process.
It has to work this way for the subscriptions. For example, my
advisee lists got hit by subscription spam a while back. Since I know
who the students are and mass subscribe them every year in April
(beginning of our academic year), I just hit the spammers with
DISCARD ^. ;-) (The smiley is not part of the regexp. :-) If that
caused existing subscriptions to be invalidated, it would be a big
problem.
This still doesn't explain:
1. Why is there still an open moderation task to do when the list owner
chooses the ban option. It is confusing to see the open moderation task
still there after selecting the ban button for the moderated subscriber.
I know mailman 2 does not do that. Having something in place that
emulates how Mailman 2 handles the ban of a moderated subscriber
prevents the following:
2. The ability to still accept a moderated subscriber after they have
been ban still should not be allowed. Again it can be confusing. I don't
like my paying List Owners confused.
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