On 1/31/26 13:11, Steve Brown via Mailman-users wrote:
I'm still a bit confused why this address: 
[email protected] still shows up in the 
list of nonmembers on the list I administer.

When Mailman receives a post it creates an address record for all of the sender addresses in that message if one doesn't already exist. Sender addresses are all those found in places defined by the `sender_headers` setting in the `[mailman]` section of mailman.cfg. By default these are the From: header, the envelope sender, the Reply-To: header and the Sender: header.

The address [email protected] was created by Mailman for a VERPed message to [email protected]

The stevebrown.us is my personal domain and steve@stevebrown is the address I use to be a member of the list. I use [email protected] for the owner of the list. radg.us is a small website that tells potential users how to subscribe and members how to use the list (e.g., how to change their settings or get to the archives). Unfortunately, I wasn't careful and spam/scam bots have scraped the addresses for joining, posting, or contacting the owner that I put on the site. I now have that site behind a Cloudflare firewall, but addresses are already accessible to the bad guys. The lists.radg.us domain is the "own domain" alias for the server that hosts the list run by Mailmanlists.net. What I haven't been able to figure out is what combination of events triggers the nonmember list entry. If I delete it, it comes back
   in a few days or weeks.  The workaround is to just leave it in the list of 
nonmembers, which is effective in that no other instances of that address 
appear, but annoying to me.  Any explanation that might help me understand 
would be appreciated.

So, presumably, some spam was sent to a list by [email protected] and a held message or rejection notice was sent to that address with envelope from [email protected]. Then some process received that message and maybe bounced it back to a list.

Try grepping your mail logs for `66273f.99dcd9c-radg` which may help understand what's happening.

--
Mark Sapiro <[email protected]>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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