Thank you Mark. You write

> what does
> 
> mailman-web diffsettings|grep ACCOUNT
> 
> report?

mailman@darni:/root$ cd

mailman@darni:~$ cd /usr/local/mailman/

mailman@darni:/usr/local/mailman$ source venv/bin/activate
(venv) mailman@darni:/usr/local/mailman$ mailman-web diffsettings|grep ACCOUNT
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/venv/bin/mailman-web", line 6, in <module>
    sys.exit(main())
             ~~~~^^
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman_web/manage.py", 
line 87, in main
    execute_from_command_line(sys.argv)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py",
 line 442
    utility.execute()
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/django/core/management/__init__.py",
 line 382
    settings.INSTALLED_APPS
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", 
line 102, in __geta
    self._setup(name)
    ~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", 
line 89, in _setup
    self._wrapped = Settings(settings_module)
                    ~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File 
"/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/django/conf/__init__.py", 
line 217, in __init
    mod = importlib.import_module(self.SETTINGS_MODULE)
  File "/usr/lib/python3.13/importlib/__init__.py", line 88, in import_module
    return _bootstrap._gcd_import(name[level:], package, level)
           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1387, in _gcd_import
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1360, in _find_and_load
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 1331, in _find_and_load_unlocked
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 935, in _load_unlocked
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 1023, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "/etc/mailman3/settings.py", line 12, in <module>
    del ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
NameError: name 'ACCOUNT_EMAIL_REQUIRED' is not defined

  I remove the additional lines Mark thinks are not necessary in

/usr/local/mailman/venv/lib/python3.13/site-packages/mailman_web/settings/mailman.py

  and restart but that gets my to another problem.
  
-- 
  Written by Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel on his 22191st day.
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