This is just strange, but seems to be operating fine: root@ohno:~> su - mailman bash-2.03$ cd locks bash-2.03$ ls -al total 8 drwxrwsr-x 2 mailman mailman 512 Mar 26 16:01 . drwxrwsr-x 19 mailman mailman 512 Mar 23 10:21 .. -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 59 Mar 27 2001 qrunner.lock -rw-rw-r-- 2 mailman mailman 59 Mar 27 2001 qrunner.lock.ohno.mrbill.net.23449 bash-2.03$ date Mon Mar 26 16:03:57 CST 2001 qrunner.lock was created *tomorrow* ? This happens even if I manually delete the lockfile. Bill -- Bill Bradford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Austin, TX ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users