OK, I'm an idiot :') postfix wasn't configured to initialize when linux restarts, and of course I had restarted since I last sent an email. When I do 'newlist', I do get an email with links. I still have problems though. No errors when I do 'newlist', but when I try to access the list functions in a browser I get: ====================================================================== Bug in Mailman version 2.0.1 We're sorry, we hit a bug! Please inform the webmaster for this site of this problem. Printing of traceback and other system information has been explicitly inhibited, but the webmaster can find this information in the Mailman error logs. ====================================================================== I get to the log and it shows the following, containing errors from creating the list, trying to access admin and listinfo pages. I don't see why there would be permission problems. Isn;t mailman supposed to do that automatically? ===================================================================== Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): Traceback (innermost last): Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 222, in ? Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): main() Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 203, in main Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): process_lists(lock) Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/cron/gate_news", line 140, in process_lists Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__ Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): self.Load() Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): fp = open(dbfile) Jul 14 21:30:09 2001 gate_news(1736): IOError : [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/mailman/lists/mylist1/config.db' Jul 14 21:33:08 2001 admin(1744): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(1744): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0.1 -----] admin(1744): [----- Traceback ------] admin(1744): Traceback (innermost last): admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(1744): main() admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/admin.py", line 66, in main admin(1744): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname) admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 77, in __init__ admin(1744): self.Lock() admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 1342, in Lock admin(1744): self.Load() admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load admin(1744): dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) admin(1744): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load admin(1744): fp = open(dbfile) admin(1744): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/mailman/lists/mylist1/config.db' admin(1744): [----- Python Information -----] admin(1744): sys.version = 1.5.2 (#1, Apr 20 2001, 13:49:31) [GCC 2.95.3 20010111 (prerelease/franzo admin(1744): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(1744): sys.prefix = /usr admin(1744): sys.exec_prefix= /usr admin(1744): sys.path = /usr admin(1744): sys.platform = linux-ppc admin(1744): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(1744): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(1744): SERVER_ADDR: 208.199.219.39 admin(1744): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip admin(1744): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(1744): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/mylist1 admin(1744): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(1744): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en admin(1744): REMOTE_ADDR: 63.149.244.12 admin(1744): SERVER_NAME: csd-bes.net admin(1744): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(1744): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.76 [en] (Win98; U) admin(1744): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 admin(1744): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* admin(1744): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/admin/mylist1 admin(1744): QUERY_STRING: admin(1744): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/mailman/cgi-bin/admin admin(1744): PATH_INFO: /mylist1 admin(1744): HTTP_HOST: www.csd-bes.net admin(1744): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(1744): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.14 Server at csd-bes.net Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(1744): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/admin admin(1744): SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost admin(1744): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) (Linux) admin(1744): PYTHONPATH: /var/mailman admin(1744): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0 admin(1744): REMOTE_PORT: 2370 Jul 14 21:33:20 2001 admin(1745): @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ admin(1745): [----- Mailman Version: 2.0.1 -----] admin(1745): [----- Traceback ------] admin(1745): Traceback (innermost last): admin(1745): File "/var/mailman/scripts/driver", line 96, in run_main admin(1745): main() admin(1745): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Cgi/listinfo.py", line 42, in main admin(1745): mlist = MailList.MailList(listname, lock=0) admin(1745): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 79, in __init__ admin(1745): self.Load() admin(1745): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 891, in Load admin(1745): dict, e = self.__load(dbfile) admin(1745): File "/var/mailman/Mailman/MailList.py", line 868, in __load admin(1745): fp = open(dbfile) admin(1745): IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/mailman/lists/mylist1/config.db' admin(1745): [----- Python Information -----] admin(1745): sys.version = 1.5.2 (#1, Apr 20 2001, 13:49:31) [GCC 2.95.3 20010111 (prerelease/franzo admin(1745): sys.executable = /usr/bin/python admin(1745): sys.prefix = /usr admin(1745): sys.exec_prefix= /usr admin(1745): sys.path = /usr admin(1745): sys.platform = linux-ppc admin(1745): [----- Environment Variables -----] admin(1745): DOCUMENT_ROOT: /var/www/html admin(1745): SERVER_ADDR: 208.199.219.39 admin(1745): HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING: gzip admin(1745): SERVER_PORT: 80 admin(1745): PATH_TRANSLATED: /var/www/html/mylist1 admin(1745): GATEWAY_INTERFACE: CGI/1.1 admin(1745): HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE: en admin(1745): REMOTE_ADDR: 63.149.244.12 admin(1745): SERVER_NAME: csd-bes.net admin(1745): HTTP_CONNECTION: Keep-Alive admin(1745): HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.76 [en] (Win98; U) admin(1745): HTTP_ACCEPT_CHARSET: iso-8859-1,*,utf-8 admin(1745): HTTP_ACCEPT: image/gif, image/x-xbitmap, image/jpeg, image/pjpeg, image/png, */* admin(1745): REQUEST_URI: /mailman/listinfo/mylist1 admin(1745): QUERY_STRING: admin(1745): SCRIPT_FILENAME: /var/mailman/cgi-bin/listinfo admin(1745): PATH_INFO: /mylist1 admin(1745): HTTP_HOST: www.csd-bes.net admin(1745): REQUEST_METHOD: GET admin(1745): SERVER_SIGNATURE: <ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.14 Server at csd-bes.net Port 80</ADDRESS> admin(1745): SCRIPT_NAME: /mailman/listinfo admin(1745): SERVER_ADMIN: root@localhost admin(1745): SERVER_SOFTWARE: Apache/1.3.14 (Unix) (Linux) admin(1745): PYTHONPATH: /var/mailman admin(1745): SERVER_PROTOCOL: HTTP/1.0 admin(1745): REMOTE_PORT: 2371 ================================================================= TIA Rob ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users