Why not use Majordomo then??? You seem to like it a lot
Mike --- Michael Smith (Warlock on IRC) http://www.warlock.web.za/ "The software said Windows95 or better... ...so I got Linux" On Mon, 13 May 2002, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: > Well bully for you. Its just fine that you like it. I like it as well > just wish that it was not such a pain in the butt to do anything other than > the EXACT way the programmers dictate that they be done. The fact is that > the software is nit flexible at all. If you know anything about > programming other than being able to spout technobabble you will know what > I mean by that and that I am 100% accurate in saying it. > Keep in mind that pure numbers has no relation what so ever with quality > or anything else. If such a relationship did exist then AOL would be the > best software ever to hit the net and cockroaches would be the most > intelligent species on the face of the Earth. > Mailman is not even close to as flexible and easy to use as > Majordomo. You don't have to worry about all these FORCED "options" that > Mailman has. You don't have to keep track of all kinds of web pages that > are not even needed to run a mailing list. You don't have to hack your > system every time you want to set up a list option. All you need to do is > set a single config file and run your list spam free for years. > Of course if you are a anal retentive power junkie who has to feel like > you control aspect of a simple mailing list (as if was ever making any > difference to the operations thereof) you can add all these absurd FORCED > passwords, headers, queues of unrequested mail, etc. You don't have to put > up with any of that sort of junk with majordomo. (BTW the hack you > suggested in the FAQ is asinine. It also deletes all subscription requests > from making it to the admin. Your suggestions is akin to suggesting that > one burn down their house because a light bulb is burnt out. > If the programmers are so thin skinned that they cannot handle someone > pointing out shortcoming in heir code then they need to find other > work. It comes with the territory. When you release code you will get > feedback that with at least some frequency does not gloss over everything > and pretend that the said code is absolutely perfect. > > :) > Enjoy! > > > > At 10:49 PM 5/13/2002 -0400, you wrote: > >Many of us love Mailman, and have been using it for what it was designed > >for, with whatever assumptions the developer(s) had in mind, for quite some > >time. > > > >Considering that the software is Open Source, and that the developer(s) has > >not charged you for it's use, or the owners/administrators of the server you > >are using, you've got quite a damn good deal! > > > >I suppose you could learn some programming and develop your own list that > >works perfectly for you, and you could ASS-U-ME for only your needs, and no > >one elses. Or you could use any one of the other commercial programs that > >are available, and pay some big bucks to do so. You might even get exactly > >what you want, too. > > > >As far as comparing Mailman to Majordomo, Mailman in my opinion is way > >superior. But you do have options. You could find a hosting company that > >offers Majordomo. It's a pain, I know, but then, that might be easier for > >you in the long run, and then the developers who offered this software for > >no cost and made it available to you and your server's owner wouldn't need > >to read silly words that are in effect, insulting. > > > >Perhaps the biggest Ass is, in fact, you. > > > >> Herein lies the rub with the mailman program. The > >> programmers ASS-U-ME > >> that everyone using the software as full access to the server on which it > >> is run. Many users have this in a shared server environment and these > >> "wonderful" patches to make up for short comings in the software > >> are not an > >> alternative. The software basically is not too bad. The fact there is > >> very little that a list owner can set up to his liking without hacking a > >> lot of places is troubling. All of this type of things should > >> not even be > >> an issue. There should be options in the admin interface to > >> handle all of > >> this. Majordomo is SO simple and straight forward. All you do is set a > >> single config file and bang you are on the way. With this you > >> have to hack > >> here to fix this and there to fix that so that eventually you > >> have no clue > >> what all has ben done! > >> The 'fix' you offer me for this question is not a fix at > >> all. It is > >> merely a cover up. The messages are still queued up and stored. > >> All that > >> happens is that a cron job nukes them. Heck bounced messages should NOT > >> default to being stored anyway. You should have to enable it if you want > >> it. The whole purpose of closing a list is to not get crap mail that you > >> dont want. If I wanted to have to approve mail i would have set it up to > >> be moderated. > >> > >> > >> > >> At 10:05 AM 5/14/2002 +0800, Lewis Lau wrote: > >> > > >> >Hey man, > >> > > >> >Read the FAQ! Topic on: How do I automatically delete held messages? > >> > > >> >Lewis > >> > > >> >At 06:18 PM 5/13/02 -0400, AerosmithFanClub.com List Admin wrote: > >> >>I have my list closed so that only subscribers can post. I > >> keep getting > >> >>these emails each time a non-subscriber tries to post saying > >> that I have > >> >>to go approve or reject the post. Hey guess what, I made it closed > >> >>because I DONT want these posts. Go figure! So tell me how > >> do I make it > >> >>stop sending me these emails and adding all of these tasks to an admin > >> >>queue when it is blatantly obvious that I dont want the posts > >> in the first > >> >>place. if I did i would not have closed the list. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >------------------------------------------------------ > >> >Mailman-Users mailing list > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >> >Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> Mailman-Users mailing list > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > >> Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py
