> Actually he did it this way:
>
> Noticed that mydomain/mailman was browsable.
>
> Telneted to port 80 and sent a get request from there...ouch.

I do not have Telnet loaded on any of my systems, and I use tcp_wrappers
to tightly control which remote sites can access any sites via ftp or
secure_shell.

Every day the logwatch report show many, many sites that attempted to
access the various systems, but were rejected by tcp_wrapper.  I don't
leave any system open with the default configuration and module loads.

>
> Sorting that now
>
> Dino
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> John Buttery
> Sent: 05 February 2003 11:27
> To: 'Mailman users Mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Mailman Security.
>
>
> * dino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-02-05 10:32:16 -0000]:
>> I was just wondering what kind of security mailman offers, as far as
>> protecting user passwords goes?
>
>   Pretty much none.  It emails them cleartext once a month, for
> starters.  The list signup page explicitly instructs subscribers not to
> use important passwords (even in bold!).  The intent of the password
> system in Mailman (this is my interpretation, not backed up with any
> actual information) is to protect against malicious [un]subscriptions of
> others by casual idiots on the Net, not against determined attackers.
>
>> A techy friend of mine has just kindly emailed me a list of all users
>> and their passwords! Looking at my server logs it would appear that he
>
>> snuck in somehow via anonymous ftp.
>
>   Then you have an incorrectly installed/configured/patched ftp server
> problem, not a mailman problem.  :)
>
>> Would closing the anon. ftp service stop mailman working in anyway, or
>
>> dya reckon he got in some place else?
>
>   I don't see why stopping an ftpd would affect mailman...
>
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