At 23:18 05/02/2003, Tom Maddox wrote:
> Tom
>
> I think there is some confusion here about what is meant by
> VERP'ed address.

Evidently, you are correct. :-/

So, that's not my problem, then, but my problem remains unresolved.  In a
nutshell, here's what I'm observing:

Prior to my "upgrade" (oh, bitter irony!) to Mailman 2.1, mail sent via a
list had the following characteristics:

From: User Name [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:  <list|user> depending on list setting

Now, the mail looks like:

From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of User Name [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:  <null>
Tom

I'm not that familiar with Outlook but it seems to me that is where the problem lies.

Mail I receive from Mailman lists such is the email I am responding to is displayed by Eudora (which I am running on Win 2k in Sponsored mode at zero cost) with your email address as From because your email address is the value of the From header, If I expand the headers, I can see that the Return-Path header's value is <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> because this (mailman-users) list is using personalized delivery with VERP'ing.

It seems from what you describe that Outlook is determined to display as From some cack-handed combination of the From and the Reply-Path headers. The Reply-To: <null> bit is pure fiction; no Reply-To header in the message so Outlook makes one up!! Is this behaviour by Outlook some sort of configurable option?? Or is it just the trolls at Microsoft demonstrating their idosyncratic capacity to f*** up anything they turn their hand to in an effort to prove that Bill-dom is the future??,

I do not mean to be rude to you but maybe some other subscriber has the knowledge to better advise you with this matter. I'm afraid my appetite for dealing with Microsoft idosyncracies/arrogance is pretty limited and I get enough of it doing user support in my paid job. Hope you find a good solution.

Regards

Richard

Additionally, sometimes Outlook will insert the "short description" of the
list into the To: field when replying, but I'm willing to believe that's a
bug in Outlook.

My users don't like the new From: format, and I am trying to get it back to
the way it was, which seems like such a small and simple thing to do but
evidently is not.  Also, getting rid of the text attachments in Outlook when
the footer has a different character set than the message body (also due to
a new "feature" introduced in 2.1) would be delightful.

Thanks for your time and patience,

Tom

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