alright, upgraded to 2.1.2 as per the recommendation in the original response. same problem continues, but now i've actually got error messages from the logs to share.

from logs/smtp:
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: (111, 'Connection refused')
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) All recipients refused: please run connect() first
Jun 25 10:23:12 2003 (11504) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 2 recips, completed in 0.037 seconds


from Defaults.py (not overridden in mm_cfg.py):
SMTPHOST = 'localhost'
and
DELIVERY_MODULE = 'SMTPDirect'

where is the "All recipients refused" message coming from? postfix's log shows the message going through just fine:
Jun 25 10:23:12 dastardly postfix/local[11553]: B03606000E: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=1, status=sent ("|/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post test")



On Tuesday, Jun 24, 2003, at 17:19 US/Central, Richard Barrett wrote:


At 22:08 24/06/2003, jacob walcik wrote:
yup, the mailman user's crontab was installed as part of the rpm
installation, and i've also tried running qrunner manually w/ the
command it's issuing, and i don't receive any errors.

assuming mailman's home is /var/mailman, where would i look for the
"qfiles" file.  a "find ./ -name "qfiles" -print" from /var/mailman
doesn't return anything.

Given your install in /var/mailman and a normal MM 2.0.x install there should be a directory called /var/mailman/qfiles. The script in /var/mailman/scripts takes delivery of incoming messages from the MTA creates a .msg and a .db file in that directory. The qrunner subsequently takes those files and processes them, sending mail out etc.


The actual qfiles directory used for enqueueing incoming messages is defined by the config variable QUEUE_DIR in $prefx/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be screwed.

But looking again at your original post you say the message is getting into the archives. That says the message is passing through qfiles, being picked up by the qrunner and so you would expect there to be some trace of its progress in one of Mailman's log files.

But you say the directory says $prefix/logs doesn't exist. The log file directory is defined by the config variable LOG_DIR in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly (and unusually) overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py. If that directory doesn't exist then something in your install may be screwed.

What value does the config variable DELIVERY_MODULE in $prefix/Mailman/Defaults.py or possibly overridden $prefix/Mailman/mm_cfg.py have and also SMTPHOST.

Are there are no logs and no sign of what is happening exists in MM's error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs.
--
jacob walcik
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