[Mailman-Users] HellMail

[Paul H Byerly]

     After a lot of testing I am pretty sure this is a HotMail issue, but 
it seems to be keyed to something innocent in Mailman and maybe someone can 
give me a clue as to what and what to do about it (aside from getting 
everyone to get a real e-mail account.)  Tests to AOL and roadrunner work fine.

Mailman 2.2.1
Python-2.2.2
RedHat 7.1
Ensim webhost, but installed outside the chrooted environment.
     Two lists trying to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

     With the general discussion list messages sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] go 
through, while message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] are not received.  Both foo and 
foobar are on the same server as Mailman, and the same path is followed for 
mail from each.

     With the announcement style messages from neither foo nor foobar get 
though.

     All subscription notifications were received properly.  Trying to 
change mailman setting to reproduce one lists problems on the other has not 
worked.  Below are the final mail log entries for the three situations I've 
given:

Sent to discussion list by [EMAIL PROTECTED] - received by 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jun 26 11:52:01 svr01 sendmail[9505]: h5QGq0609503: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=146535, relay=mx2.hotmail.com. [65.54.252.230], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery)

Sent to discussion list by [EMAIL PROTECTED] - received by [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jun 26 11:34:19 svr01 sendmail[7132]: h5QGYD607130: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=146494, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery)

Sent to announcement list by [EMAIL PROTECTED] - not received 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Jun 25 22:39:55 svr01 sendmail[3603]: h5Q3dt603600: 
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=87264, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Queued mail for delivery)

     I am no expert on mail logs, but does this not show HotMail accepting 
all three messages?  Any ideas?

<>< Paul 

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