I have posted over and over that this issue is not just Outlook or MS
related.  I have the same issue with headers and footers regardless of
what email client is used.  I have 2.1.2 on a freebsd 4.7 machine with
sendmail.  My mac users send to the list, Eudora users, outlook and all
I have tried.  Same problem.

I am not saying its not more prevalent in outlook.  But it is happening
with other programs.  And I know everyone will be quick to say, don't
use sendmail, or you must have installed it wrong.  

I have posted the problem here before and no one has responded with
anything close to a resolution.  I was told by someone that it was being
address in the next version.  So I am waiting.

There doesn't seem to be nothing else I can do.

As far as the statement to use a MUA that doesn't suck.  You need to
crawl out of the 18th century.  MS has had the mail client world tied up
for a long time, and gains more everyday.  I personally don't like
Outlook in a pop3 environment.  But in an exchange environment protected
by a proper firewall there is only a few that compare for collaboration
and global use.  But then again, I come from an environment that has
servers all over the world synchronizing the GAL and shared objects
every night.  Not too many other options for global address books.
There are some.  But not many.

My little 2 cents


-----Original Message-----
From: Will Yardley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 4:53 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Mailman-Users] Re: Flat Threads when posting
usingOutlook/Exchange clients

On Mon, Jun 30, 2003 at 03:56:59PM -0700, Roy Santos wrote:

> I have seen a few postings regarding problems getting
> flat threads while posting using Outlook clients. See
> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03011.html.
> But what I haven't seen is an answer on how or what
> needs adjusting in MS for making proper threading that
> Netscape, Eudora, Mozilla, etc.

What needs adjusting? Using an MUA which doesn't suck.... I think some
versions of Outlook do generate the proper headers, but I imagine it's
based on version #, as opposed to being a configurable setting. The Mac
version (which is much better behaved in general) does.

> Is there a setting in the Defaults.py or other place to use "Subject"
> instead of "In-Reply-To" or "References"?

I'm pretty sure there isn't. A lot of MUAs can do this; it probably
wouldn't be a bad idea, but could cause unexpected problems (like when
people send messages to the list with generic subject lines).

-- 
"Since when is skepticism un-American?
Dissent's not treason but they talk like it's the same..."
(Sleater-Kinney - "Combat Rock")



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