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Message: 5 Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:25:42 -0500 From: Paul H Byerly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Mailman-Users] Osirusoft blocking all IPs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I realize this is not a Mailman issue, but it may be causing some Mailman systems to reject all mail. If you are using relays.osirusoft.com it's rejecting all e-mail. <>< Paul, who has his mail flowing again ********************************************* Osirusoft has been under a VERY heavy DDoS attack for a while now. In order to reduce traffic, Joe set things up so that legitimate users of his service would cease - all that leaves left is the terrorist attack, which can now be analysed. The underlying lists from which he drew his information are still there: SPEWS, for one, is still in operation. I personally salute Joe for his valiant effort over the past few years; making these lists available has meant that I've blocked many thousands of spam messages, with only one false-positive in the bunch. There are some who ignorantly blame Joe for problems in their own server, their ISP, or the listing criteria on the lists he used; they fail to see that we as mail server operators have the final say on who uses our resources. Lists such as the Osirusoft relay list have had a significant impact on spam; otherwise, they'd never have been hit as hard as they are, because the spammers wouldn't be afraid. Keep in mind also that it's these criteria that have given Mailman some of the features that allow it to be a good netizen - in particular, the confirmation option. No-one should ever be added to a mailing list without their knowledge and consent. It's the lists that DON'T do this that get their IPs blacklisted. The spammers and electronic terrorists perpetrating this attack have failed to foresee two things: the rise of multiple alternate lists, and the reactivation of individual blocklists. It's much easier to get off of one centrally-maintained list than it is to get off of thousands of individually-maintained lists, especially when the admins are overworked and vindictive... -Don ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ This message was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe or change your options at http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org