So I finally figured out how you customize MSEC... thanks to Jon's link
below...

Specifically for making Mandrake 9.2 happy with MAILMAN I created the
file /etc/security/msec/perm.local containing the following lines:

/var/lib/mailman/logs                           mail.mail
2775
/var/lib/mailman/logs/*                         mail.mail
2775
/var/log/mailman                                mail.mail
2775
/var/log/mailman/*                              mail.mail
2775
/var/log/mailman/*/*                            mail.mail
2775

Hope this helps someone else... it is much cleaner than my "every minute
cron" patch. :)


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Burkett 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Todd
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] File Permissions on /var/lib/mailman/logs
files...

It is MSEC... and I've gone in and modified the perm files
(/usr/share/msec/perm.[0-5]) to add lines for the /var/lib/mailman/logs
directory and files as well as the /var/log/mailman directory and its
files... still some strangeness at times so I'm leaving the every minute
cron jobs in as well to override the file perms directly... not pretty
but it is working.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Carnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 3:09 PM
To: Todd
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] File Permissions on /var/lib/mailman/logs
files...

What level is your MSec set to? It could definitely be doing this.
http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php

Jon Carnes

On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 15:44, Todd wrote:
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> Mike Burkett wrote:
> > I've just upgraded to V2.1.4 and am having some problems with file
> > permissions on the /var/lib/mailman/logs files.
> [...]
> > Something keeps resetting the permissions to 0600 and then the web
> > interface dies with the info below.
> [...]
> > Any suggestions? I did try to find this in the FAQs but was
> > unsuccessful...
> [...]
> > sys.version
> >
> > 2.3 (#2, Aug 31 2003, 17:27:29) [GCC 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2
> > 3.3.1-1mdk)] 
> 
> I think you've got a mandrake specific issue here.  They have some
> program that tightens up permissions regularly.  I don't use mandrake
> so I can't help much with how to tweak it to not tighten up the
> permissions on the mailman log dir so much.  Hopefully I'm on the
> right track here.  It's surely nothing mailman specific that's
> changing your permissions. 
> 
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