Problem was solved as I described, the "log" was created using exim's debugger. You start exim with -d9 -bd, and then you submit a post to a list, the Exim debugger "catches" the traffic in real time, and tells you in a deeply verbose way what it's doing to deliver the message to the list. It showed about 241 lines down the session starting to error out, a nice, verbose error, complete with quasi-solution in quotes.

This is nifty for all sorts of inbound/outbound checks, often telling you exactly what you need to do.

The "log" I speak of was simply the transcript of the exim debug level 9 session. I made it with my putty client and reviewed it with my boss. We found a broken pipe at line 241, and sure enough, the exim "director" was puking on "guest" when it needed "daemon".

Exim uses "directors" and "transports" as mechanisms for getting list-related emails to their proper destination.

Many people have googled this error and try to recompile their ports to use --with-mail-gid. I didn't have to do this because the debugger proved you can get some precise information, much more than the normal static logs for exim (mainlog/rejectlog), and for mailman, because it's so much more verbose at d9.

Thanks for showing me where to find the logs in Mailman, these complete the picture in stellar fashion, my lists are up and running now, and I noticed right away posts sent from squirrelmail-webmail sessions do not work. Squirrelmail is IMAP-based, so i'm assuming the 'post' log will contain some errors I can sift a solution for.

My postings from Eudora and Ximian, both of which are using pop3d, work great. Any idea what could be causing this?

Anyhow, much thanks for the info thus far!

-krb




At 10:25 AM 4/27/2004 +0100, Richard Barrett wrote:


On 27 Apr 2004, at 09:50, Karl R. Balsmeier wrote:

We found it was a group_id problem in /etc/exim/configure.

The following block of code was corrected to read:

system_aliases:
  driver = aliasfile
  file = /etc/mail/aliases
  search_type = lsearch
  user = daemon
  group = daemon
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe

Where group=daemon, it used to say "guest".

The log file was what caught this.

Which log file?


  I opened a console and typed:
./usr/local/sbin/exim -d9 -bd

The error in the log

Which log?


looked like this:
Mailman mail-wrapper: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group "guest". Try tweaking the mail server to run the script as group "daemon", or re-run configure,
providing the command line option `--with-mail-gid=guest'.


My question about mailman logs is still open in curiosity, -are here actual logs, or justmethods to check out what's going on?

Maybe I have not understood your question but here goes. Mailman writes a number of logs to its log directory, see below the directory listing from my system. The log file names are fairly explanatory. Normally, the most useful tend to be the error, post, smtp and smtp-failure logs:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:$prefix/logs> ls -1 | grep -v "\."
bounce
digest
error
fromusenet
locks
mischief
post
qrunner
smtp
smtp-failure
subscribe
vette

There will not be much in these logs and the log files may not have even been created if the MTA was failing to deliver to Mailman, as seems to be your case. Without the stimulus of incoming mail the logs may have yet to be opened/created for the first time.

-krb


At 09:43 AM 4/27/2004 +0100, Richard Barrett wrote:


On 27 Apr 2004, at 07:50, Karl R. Balsmeier wrote:

Creation and subscription to lists works great, email is making it from
the mailman host to the mail server, but when I post to a list, (i have
test users who have joined the list, etc.), nothing comes through?

Have you started $prefix/bin/mailmanctl (MM version 2.1.x) or installed the MM crontab (MM version 2.0.x)?



Where are the mailman logs? I'll check em out'...

$prefix/logs/ is a good place to look; and also check the MTA's mail log to check it is delivering to MM successfully


Are messages accumulating in any of the subdirectories of $prefix/qfiles/ ?

Take a look a some of the MM FAQ entries (see the link in the std footer of mail from the mailman-users list)


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