On 11 Jun 2004, at 14:07, Lloyd Tennison wrote:
Since it only does it one one list I have to assume it is Mailman.
Or the data that Mailman has been fed such as the list subscriber addresses or the incoming messages are crap.
The SMTP log? What useful information about an email that has gone out is there?
The purpose of looking at the Mailman and MTA logs is that they should give you a blow by blow account of the events in the life of a message from its receipt by the Mailman server to the output of the messages to the list subscribers. The key is the message ID which should allow you to track the message's history. For instance these are the entries for a particular message in the Mailman post, smtp and Sendmail logs (modified for privacy in this posting) and you can see the entire history of the message in the Mailman system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mailman/run/logs> tail -1 post
Jun 11 14:25:23 2004 (4695) post to cwu from [EMAIL PROTECTED], size=2578, message-id=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, success
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mailman/run/logs> tail -1 smtp
Jun 11 14:25:23 2004 (4695) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> smtp for 13 recips, completed in 0.384 seconds
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mailman/run/logs> less /var/log/mail
Jun 11 14:25:20 mailman2 sendmail[29025]: i5BDPKY29025: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=1522, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=ext-proxy-2.xxx.yyy.tld [192.65.220.98]
Jun 11 14:25:22 mailman2 sendmail[29027]: i5BDPKY29025: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=mailman, pri=121522, relay=mailman.xxx.yyy.tld, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
Jun 11 14:25:23 mailman2 sendmail[29032]: i5BDPNY29032: from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=2578, class=-30, nrcpts=13, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [172.16.2.135]
Jun 11 14:25:26 mailman2 sendmail[29034]: i5BDPNY29032: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED] ld>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<r [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<j.p [EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<a. [EMAIL PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=relay, pri=536578, relay=the-pool.xxx.yyy.tld. [192.168.250.53], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (i5BDPPNk017324 Message accepted for delivery)
If you cannot track a message through your Mailman server in this way then something is misconfigured or setup suboptimally.
All I ever get is weird errors that mailman creates by itself in there, i,e.
Or maybe something is misconfigured on your system in order to help Mailman have the problem!
Jun 11 05:14:30 2004 (32685) All recipients refused: please run connect() first
Like how did it get "unconnected?"
or Jun 09 16:02:15 2004 (7536) All recipients refused: (501, 'NULL characters are not allowed in SMTP commands', 'xx-bounces+7=hotmail.com\x00\x
[EMAIL PROTECTED]')
Why is it adding null characters.
Maybe there is a defective mail address subscribed to the list or the subscriber list in the list's config.pck has gotten zapped? [EMAIL PROTECTED] looks like a bad subscriber address to me which is maybe why the outbound MTA refused to accept it.
But this mailing was not the one that dups. The all recps ???
I did stop mailman and deleted all the queue and lockfiles (actually purged all by a reinstall. Maybe that created that weird error of all recps.)
Did you take all the usual steps like re-running $prefix/bin/check_perms after doing the reinstall.
What MTA are you using and how configured; hopefully local and via SMTP? Can you communicate with the MTA OK through a telnet session to port 25? For example:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mailman/run> telnet mailman.xxx.yyy.tld 25
Trying 172.16.2.135...
Connected to mailman.xxx.yyy.tld.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mailman.xxx.yyy.tld ESMTP Sendmail 8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9/Revision:1.90/db; Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:54:11 +0100 (BST)
quit
221 2.0.0 mailman.xxx.yyy.tld closing connection
Connection closed by foreign host.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mailman/run>
Still confused.
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On 11 Jun 2004, at 13:35, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:
I know this was asked but I do not see an answer - I have one list that
decides to send a lot more than one email to the same person - and it
just started.
Thoughts?
Have you checked the Mailman post and smtp logs, correlated with the outbound MTA's logs, to see if it is multiple messages being sent from Mailman or could it be multiple deliveries of the same message by an MTA?
Thanks.
Lloyd F. Tennison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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