At 5:16 PM +0100 2004-06-30, Ian A B Eiloart wrote:

 > 1. When I post to my mailming list the From address comes like
 > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". Why can't I have the from address as
 > the address of the sender?

 Because that's where bounces go, and you want automatic unsubscription
 to work, don't you?

And, as a subscriber, I don't want all the bounce messages coming to me! As Ralf says, let mailman see the bounces and deal with them.

No, that's wrong. The question was about the "From:" address. Bounces go to the "Sender:" address. The from address has to be the person who composed the message. The sender address is the agent that sent it to the recipient.

There is the header "From:" field, and then there is the envelope sender address. The latter is sometimes indicated as something like:


                From <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In particular, note the lack of a colon after the word "From". This is sometimes indicated as the "From_" address, where the underscore character is understood to stand for a space character in this usage.

It is not exactly clear to me which one is being referred to here. The original quote does not indicate a colon after the word "From:", but I'm not 100% certain as to whether or not the author was aware of this connotation.


Note that some MTAs will promote the envelope sender address into the header "From:" field (especially if no header "From:" field exists), and some MUAs display an address listed in the "Sender:" field in addition or in place of the "From:" field (if they are different).


Bounces are sent to the envelope sender address, which may or may not be recorded in the "Sender:" field, or elsewhere in the message. It's important to distinguish between the envelope sender address and the contents of the "From:" and "Sender:" fields, because the envelope sender address may be lost or irretrievably altered once the message is received.


You should never attempt to bounce a message to any address in any header field -- you should always bounce back to the actual envelope sender address. This obviously causes problems if the envelope sender address is lost or irretrievably altered.


--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.

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