On 24 Sep 2004, at 16:08, Chris Barnes wrote:
I have a question about umbrella lists.
I understand the concept (and use them on my Lsoft Listserv lists). But
what I am unsure about is how they are implemented in MM.
Please correct my thinking here. If you have an umbrella list, it has a group of sublists to which it will re-distribute its messages, right? Then it should do these 2 things:
a) make sure that a person that is subscribed to multiple sublists only gets 1 copy of the message
b) use it's own Subjectprefix (pre-empting the subject prefix of the sublists)
The problem I have is that this is not what is happening. Our umbrella list is basically acting like the sublists are simple subscribers - meaning neither (a) nor (b) above is occurring.
Unfortunately you are saying what you think umbrella lists should do, not understanding what MM does do with them, which is not very much.
What Mailman does is described in the help for the umbrella_list and umbrella_member_suffix list attributes on the General Options page of the Mailman admin web GUI.
If you want more then you will have to wait for Mailman's volunteer developers to do it or become one and do it yourself.
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umbrella_list (general): Send password reminders to, eg, "-owner" address instead of directly to user.
Set this to yes when this list is intended to cascade only to other mailing lists. When set, meta notices like confirmations and password reminders will be directed to an address derived from the member's address - it will have the value of "umbrella_member_suffix" appended to the member's account name.
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umbrella_member_suffix (general): Suffix for use when this list is an umbrella for other lists, according to setting of previous "umbrella_list" setting.
When "umbrella_list" is set to indicate that this list has other mailing lists as members, then administrative notices like confirmations and password reminders need to not be sent to the member list addresses, but rather to the owner of those member lists. In that case, the value of this setting is appended to the member's account name for such notices. `-owner' is the typical choice. This setting has no effect when "umbrella_list" is "No".
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