On Oct 11, 2004, at 1:49 PM, Fred Look and Brenda Carson wrote:
You are aware that the "list owner" and "list moderator" are now two seperate
identities and that after your upgrade you need to access the admin page for
each list and fill in the email address for "moderator" which will be blank. ?
Yes, but it appears (at least in my experience) that if you leave the moderator line empty the list owner is the default moderator. That is how it works on my lists (I have my own installation that my company offers -- no problems here -- the problem was another installation on a customer machine that we support but do not own)
thanks Chad
this happened to me too when i upgraded to 2.1.5
Fred
On Tuesday 12 October 2004 07:28, Richard Barrett wrote:On 11 Oct 2004, at 18:54, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:------------------------------------------------------Hi
I have a mailman installation I am responisible for (2.1.5). The list
owners do not get any administrative emails (like pending requests).
However, the same email addresses subscribed to lists get the list
traffic fine and the people get all their normal emails ok. So the
problem seems to lie with Mailman.
Presumption, not proven.
Here is an example from the smtp-failure log file, which I believe is all this admin stuff
Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try later')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try later')}, msgid: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) All recipients refused: {'[EMAIL PROTECTED]': (451, 'Temporary local problem - please try later')}, msgid: <mailman.21.1097506077.1873.roselawn@ domain.com> Oct 11 11:30:41 2004 (1875) delivery to [EMAIL PROTECTED] failed with code 451: Temporary local problem - please try later
The smtp failures being reported in Mailman's logs appear to be just the responses it is getting from the SMTP server it has been told to talk to, i.e. the MTA is reporting a not very explicit temporary failure to Mailman. Does the SMTP server's logs contain any more info as to why it is refusing these messages?
Again, this seems to only affect notices for the admin like pending requests etc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (and it happens with everyone who is a list owner it appears) gets mail from Mailman as a list user and normal non Mailman mail just fine.
I think this happened when we upgradede from 2.0.8 or something in that era to 2.1.5
Any thoughts?
Thanks Chad
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