At 12:12 PM -0600 2005-05-14, Mike Avery wrote: > This has happened several times - I create a new list for a local > group. I add the users to it myself. I make the list public in the > Mailman/listinfo web page. And within 2 weeks, the list starts getting > spammed. > > How do they get the list name?
Spammers also run their own spiders looking for anything remotely like an e-mail address, and I'm sure they have some that look for anything that looks like a mailing list. A friend of mine wrote a package called wpoison to try to "catch" these spiders and to generate tons of bogus e-mail addresses which the spammers might then try to use, thus exposing both the IP address of the spider which collected that address and the IP address of the e-mail server from which the spam was coming from. Problem is, when spammers use a botnet of a million machines, it doesn't really hurt them to have a few of these machines exposed. > Is there any way to hide it better? You could make the lists private, but they could still be exposed in other ways. > I've been lucky that none of the spam has actually made it to my lists, > but it's annoying to have to wade through the blocked messages to > separate the wheat from the chaff. There are some things you can do on the MTA to reduce the amount of spam that is let through, but ultimately there's not really anything you can do to stop someone who is determined to get through. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp