On Sat, 14 May 2005, Brad Knowles wrote:

> At 5:14 PM -0400 2005-05-14, Charles Sprickman wrote:
>
>>  Now, does anyone have any clue what the error messages below mean?
>>  Judging by the number of shunted messages, this happens fairly often.  The
>>  "I/O error" leads me towards permsissions, but on what?
>
>       I'd have to check the code, but from reading the traceback it seems 
> to me like there was some sort of error writing to the log files.  What is 
> the ownership and permissions for the Mailman "logs" directory, all the log 
> files within that directory, etc...?  How full is that filesystem?  How large 
> are those log files?

The perms look OK, but I do remember many months ago that the "smtp" 
logfile would sometimes revert to being owned by root rather than mailman. 
Very odd.

If it is a permissions problem on a log, should that actually cause the 
message to get shunted?  If that is what's happening, perhaps I should put 
that in the SF bug tracker...

>>  Lastly, what are ".pck" files?  How can I examine these as they show up?
>
>       Those are the Python "pickle" files which contain binary data 
> regarding the message.  Use the "show_qfiles" program in 
> /usr/local/mailman/bin.  For example, from the /usr/local/mailman directory, 
> do the following:
>
>               % bin/show_qfiles qfiles/shunt/*.pck
>
>       However, if the "pickle" file is causing errors of this sort, then 
> show_qfiles may come back with errors as well -- you'll just have to give it 
> a try.

Excellent!  Thanks for that info, I appreciate it.

Charles

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