At 11:03 AM -0500 2005-07-13, Dave Beckstrom wrote: > I'm considering Mailman and I have been reading the FAQ and archives in > search of an answer to my questions. > > I didn't have much luck and thought I would ask here.
Hmm. That's a bad sign. Did you search the Mailman FAQ Wizard for "performance"? > I have a client who needs to send out about 50,000 emails once a month via a > one-way list. > > I'm considering installing Mailman on a Dell server with a 2.8 ghz Xeon > processor, 1 GB ram and one 160 GB SATA IDE Hard drive. > > The OS would be FreeBSD. > > I'm not terribly strong in 'nix but I do have some experience with OpenBSD > and I'm generally good at figuring out new things. > > Does anyone foresee any performance problems with my configuration? Will I > have a lot of trouble installing Mailman on FreeBSD versus some other OS? For large mailing lists, RAM is a critical limiting factor, to a point. Whether or not your system will have enough RAM is hard to say. I'd be inclined to start with more, if possible. But it may turn out that you don't need all that RAM. This is one of those things where you take a guess (and you usually try to guess conservatively), and if things are obviously too bad then you revise the system configuration upward from there. After RAM, the next most important limiting factor is the disk I/O subsystem. On a busy server, ATA or EIDE drives do not cut the mustard -- not even SATA is good enough. You need SCSI. Not even with an intelligent drive controller will ATA or EIDE cut the mustard -- you need SCSI. An intelligent SCSI controller will be an improvement over standard SCSI drives, especially if you can configure it for a large amount of battery-backed write-back cache, and the drive array itself in a striped/striped or "plaid" RAID-1+0 configuration. The only question here is whether or not your system will be so busy that the ATA drives hurt you by so much that you are forced to replace them. It's impossible to answer that question a priori -- you may have to try it and find out. If at all possible, I would recommend replacing the drives in this configuration with SCSI, but that may not be possible. You're also going to need an improved filesystem, and FreeBSD is a good choice here, with more recent versions having "soft updates" enabled by default. You also need an MTA configured for maximum performance. It is possible to configure sendmail to extremely high levels of performance, but it takes a lot of work to do, and takes a fair amount of management to keep it there. Postfix works pretty well out-of-the-box for small to medium size lists, and there are a lot of knobs you can tune for further performance on larger lists. Operating system wise, I believe that FreeBSD is a good choice. It is my preferred choice, but of course that's a personal preference. One thing you generally don't need on a large mailing list server is CPU. Boxes with very slow CPUs but well-designed I/O subsystems will run circles around boxes with much faster CPUs but less well designed I/O subsystems. The problem is that pretty much all this information is already in the FAQ, with further information in the archives. So, if you searched for "performance" and you didn't find it then there is a bigger problem. -- Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755 SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp