David Spake wrote: > >Here's what's so odd about the whole situation, and what really throws >me for a curve.
It confuses me too. See below. >The message that shows at the bottom of the first >Bounce Notification has been sucessfully posted to the list. It's >accepted by MailMan, with a timestamp of 10:55. The very next message I >have from the list is the first Bounce Notification, timestamped at >10:57. I have no other messages from the list between 10:55 and 10:57. > Then at 10:57 PM, I get the first of 55 or so bounce notifications. > >Looking back at the email message, I see the message "The triggering >bounce notice is attached below.". For clarity I include the entire >message here between the xx's: > >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >This is a Mailman mailing list bounce action notice: > > List: HH_Talk > Member: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Action: Subscription disabled. > Reason: Excessive or fatal bounces. > > > >The triggering bounce notice is attached below. > >Questions? Contact the Mailman site administrator at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >============================ >Subject: [HH_Talk] xxx >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:55:09 -0500 >To: "HH talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Received: (qmail 6323 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2005 03:56:54 -0000 >Received: from bay11-dav39.bay11.hotmail.com (HELO hotmail.com) >(64.4.39.69) by human.reason4.us with SMTP; 28 Aug 2005 03:56:54 -0000 >Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft >SMTPSVC; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:56:23 -0700 >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Received: from 70.245.115.173 by BAY11-DAV39.phx.gbl with DAV; Sun, 28 >Aug 2005 03:56:23 +0000 >X-Originating-IP: [70.245.115.173] >X-Originating-Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >MIME-Version: 1.0 >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: MSN 9 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.10.0011.1703 >Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:55:10 -0500 >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Aug 2005 03:56:23.0663 (UTC) >FILETIME=[74FBF7F0:01C5AB84] >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 >Precedence: list >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Id: <hh_talk.heartlandhumanists.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <snip> >List-Archive: <http://lists.heartlandhumanists.org/pipermail/hh_talk> >List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Subscribe: <snip> >Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1877034956==" >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167235,00.html > > >============ >xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >That's it. One last thing I've checked is to see if the Message-ID: of >the posted message, and the Message-ID: of the attached "triggering >bounce notice" are the same. They are. My first point of confusion is you have posted earlier that bounce processing is off. In this case, mail to the listname-bounces address is ignored by Mailman. Are you getting notices like the above with bounce processing off? If so, I don't understand why. Ignoring that confusion for the moment, the notice you quote above contains a "triggering bounce notice" which is not a delivery status notification. It looks like a post that was sent out from the list and then possibly echoed back to the listname-bounces address by one of the recipients, although there are no Received: headers supporting this notion. Possibly something in your MTA is doing this. Have you checked all your aliases? I'm also confused as to where the disabled subscribers address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was picked up as it doesn't seem to be in the notice anywhere although it could be VERPed in the envelope recipient. Also, where does the 153-hh_talk... address in the Delivered-To: header come from? What do the rest of the 55 or so notices look like? are they the same except for the address of the disabled user? -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
