Stephen R Laniel wrote:
>
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59829) VirginRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59828) ArchRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59830) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59831) BounceRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59832) CommandRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59833) NewsRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59834) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59835) RetryRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master watcher 
>caught SIGTERM.  Exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 17 16:44:27 2005 (59007) Master qrunner 
>detected subprocess exit


This looks like a normal shut down as a result of 'bin/mailmanctl stop' 
or 'kill -TERM' of the master watcher process. Presumably, no one
knowingly did this, but is it possible the OS did it because of some
process limit?


>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63166) ArchRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63167) BounceRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63170) NewsRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63174) RetryRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63171) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63172) VirginRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
>qrunner started.


Here it looks like a normal start.


>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85507) CommandRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:23 2005 (85509) NewsRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85505) ArchRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85510) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85506) BounceRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85508) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85511) VirginRunner 
>qrunner started.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:20:24 2005 (85512) RetryRunner 
>qrunner started.


Here it looks like a second start was done while the first set of
qrunners from Oct 19 13:57:48 2005 was still running. You mentioned in
your first post starting mailman with '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mailman.sh
start'. This script probably does 'bin/mailmanctl -s start'. The '-s'
stale lock cleanup is appropriate for a system restart script, but not
for a running system. It is better to start mailman on a running
system with 'bin/mailmanctl start', at least for the first try.


>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63168) CommandRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63169) IncomingRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63170) NewsRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63170) NewsRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63171) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63171) OutgoingRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63172) VirginRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63172) VirginRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63174) RetryRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63174) RetryRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63166) ArchRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63166) ArchRunner 
>qrunner exiting.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63167) BounceRunner 
>qrunner caught SIGTERM.  Stopping.
>/usr/local/mailman/logs/qrunner:Oct 20 13:57:34 2005 (63167) BounceRunner 
>qrunner exiting.

And here the first of the two running sets of qrunners is stopped. Was
this done somehow manually?

-- 
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San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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