Mark, Thanks, will pass this along. We are using Cpannel though, but might be able to get something. I'm behind.
At 18:51 11/4/2005, Mark Sapiro wrote: >Jared Rimer wrote: > > >Hi all, > > Here's a message from my provider. Any other ideass? > > >I have added some comments if you want to pursue this further. > > > >>I'm not sure I can give you any more information than what was > >>contained in that thread. > >> > >>Basically, it sounds like one of the list members has their email > >>address configured to only allow mail from people in their address > >>book. This sounds like some sort of 0spam or box trapper. So, since > >>that person apparently does not have the list address in their address > >>book or white list, the mail from the list bounces. However, it's not > >>a standard bounce message which can be recognized by Mailman, so > >>Mailman tries to notify the list owner. > > >Yes, but unrecognized bounces do happen from time to time for other >reasons such as full mailboxes and so forth. Mailman isn't perfect at >recognizing and parsing all bounce messages. > > > >>As in that response, I don't understand exactly why this notification > >>isn't successful, but something causes that not to be delivered to the > >>yahoo address, generating a bounce response for that address which > >>then gets treated like a member, because it is, and gets disabled. > >> > >>I think there are 2 things that can be done: First, the person using > >>the box trapper can be removed from the list until they get their act > >>together. Second, you can turn off notification of unrecognized > >>bounce messages. > > >Item 2 would avoid the issue for unrecognized bounces, but it would be >better to find and fix the underlying problem if we can. > > > >>It wasn't clear to me why the notification of the unrecognized bounce > >>report wasn't delivered successfully, but if the experts on the > >>Mailman list couldn't tell you, I'm sure I wouldn't have a clue. If > >>you want to follow through on this further, you need to ask them why > >>Mailman would treat a list owner's rejection as a member's rejection > >>notice. > > >The bouncing address is the listname-owner address which appears to get >mapped by the bounce processor into an actual address from the list's >owner attribute. > >We can't say exactly why the message was not accepted by Exim but there >should be messages in both the Exim logs and in Mailman's smtp-failure >log that can shed light on this. We'd like to see those messages. > > > >>Out of curiosity, is there any sort of box trapper running on the > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] address? Therein might lie the problem > >>if that address is not accepting mail from the host > >>idea5.anoeticconcepts.com since Mailman apparently uses the host name > >>rather than the "preferred domain" for some of its delivery > >>notifications. > > >I don't think this is the reason, because I thing the message is not >accepted from Mailman by Exim. If the above were the reason, I think >the bounce would occur later on Exim's attempt to deliver to Yahoo. > >-- >Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, >San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan Jared Rimer Business website: http://www.superior-software.com/support Personal Website: http://www.asmodean.net/jrimer Music Education Network for the Visually Impaired http://menvi.org a service done through Superior Software level one WBBY Internet Radio and All In Play team up. Learn more http://www.menvi.org/allinplay WBBY Internet Radio: www.wbby.us ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
