> >So, as far as both Windows and Cygwin should be concerned, > >mailman _is_ in the Administrators group. > > But that clearly isn't what's happening. What do you get from > group Ben > and > group mailman
I get "bash: group: command not found" > If they are in more than one group, I think files they create > will be assigned to the first group they belong to. Files they create are apparently assigned to group "None" in most cases. (I find that if I use "touch" to create a dummy file, it gets the right Group owner, but almost all other cases result in "None".) > >> or create the list via the web create interface. > > > >Tried that too. I get an web page stating "Error: You are not > >authorized to create new mailing lists." > > And what did you use for the password? It must be the site > password or the list creator password set by bin/mmsitepass. I tried everything I could think of: the passwords for 'Ben' account, for the 'mailman' account, for the 'Administrator' account, empty password, list password. No matter what I tried, it says "Error: You are not authorized." Now i tried setting mmsitepass, and giving the same value in the web create inteface. That got past the authorization message, and now says "Error: Unknown virtual host: localhost". > >But, it won't be run as the 'mailman' user when it's invoked from > >Apache, so that assumption will surely fail, right? > > Well, actually it expects to be run in the mailman group > which in your case is the Administrators group. Any files it > creates have to be group owned by Administrators. Since Cygwin regularly sets group to 'None', I think this isn't going to work. AFAICT there is no real "None" group, it is a pseudo-group created my Cygwin's "mkgroup" and "mkpasswd" commands. I had been getting around it by manually fixing the group IDs in the /etc/passwd file, to force user 'mailman' into the 'Administrators' group to match the reality in Windows, but apparently that is not sufficient to really convince Cygwin. > Well, in my case, everything runs as user Mark and group None > so everything is in the None group, and it works. Aha! Well, maybe that's the only functional workaround! I will try re-configure and re-install with "--with-mail-gid=None --with-cgi-gid=None --with-groupname=None" and see if it gets further. I suspect, though, that it will still create files with 660 permissions, which will cause other parts of the code to fail.. > Apache is running as a service presumably in > the Administrators group so everything has to be in the > Administrators group for things to work. Right, although Cygwin doesn't fully realize that the service is running in the Administrators group. > BTW, did you run bin/check_perms after reconfiguring with > --with-groupname=Administrators? I did, with -f so that it would fix everything up. Unfortunately it doesn't avoid the 660 and 'None' problems. If we finally get through this, I promise to make up a FAQ entry that really works, unlike the really wrong/outdated one in FAQ entry 5.2. -Ben ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
