>>>>> "William" == William F Hill, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
William> I have asked this question in the past and still cannot William> find a simple, layman's way of getting my membership list William> downloaded. One way: Go to the list information page using your web browser. It usually has a URL like http://SERVER.DOM/lists/listinfo/LIST or http://SERVER.DOM/mailman/lists/listinfo/LIST where SERVER.DOM is the name of the server and list is the name of your list. (My listserver is heavily customized, so it probably is not anything like yours; maybe somebody else can fill you in on the usual setup.) Somewhere on that page there should be a box to log in as the administrator, next to a button that says "Visit Subscriber List". The necessary address is probably printed at the bottom of the page where it says "XXX list run by YYY at ZZZZ.COM". Don't use the word "at", use the at-sign to get the admin address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". The password should the one you use to manage your list. The page you get will have the member roster you want. (However, if you have well-informed users, some may have turned off display of their addresses. For those users you will have to go to the membership management page. This page should have almost everybody, though.) You can copy and paste the list from there into another browser window with the membership management page for the new list/new server. You may need to enter carriage returns by hand so that there is one address per line. The rest you pick up by hand from the membership management page. Another way: save the membership management pages to files, and edit them into the format that "mass subscribe" expects. Depending on your skill with the editor and the features of your editor this may be prohibitively tedious, or surprisingly easy. William> Also, why doesn't mailman have this feature built in? It William> seems that this would be a normal thing to want to do William> from time to time for backup purposes. Mailman was written by and for people who run mailing list servers. They have direct access to the files, so no problem in getting those lists. It was quite unexpected that Mailman would be so successful in simplifying administrative tasks that mass-market Internet providers would be using it to allow just about anybody to run their own lists. That history, combined with the fact that most list administrators either do have access or don't need a copy of the list, has meant that a straightforward way to do this task hasn't been implemented yet. As for backup, in most cases the server host provides regular on-line and offsite back up; a backup by the list admin should not be necessary. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp