Kris Wilk wrote: > >1) -owner has worked all along. Looking at the message, the Return-Path: >is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". cheiron is the name of the shared >server my site is on. I suspect SMTP is configured to allow >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as a sender. > >2) My test yesterday showed that "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (my own >domain) was being rejected as a sender. > >Is it possible that Mailman is using these two different addresses for >the -owner and -admin situations? Would that explain why one has been >working and the other not?
No. It has nothing to do with -owner vs. -admin. Mailman never sends to -admin. The reason is this. When an external message is sent to the -owner address, the scripts/owner script that queues the message to be sent to the owner specifies the envelope sender by calling Mailman.Utils.get_site_email(extra='bounces') function which in this case returns <sitelist>[EMAIL PROTECTED] which in your case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] When a message to the owner is created within Mailman it is created as an instance of the Mailman.Message.OwnerNotification() class which specifies the envelope sender by calling Mailman.Utils.get_site_email(mlist.host_name, 'bounces') which returns <sitelist>[EMAIL PROTECTED] which in your case is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bottom line - external messages to -owner are different from internally crafted notices to the owner. The former have envelope sender of <sitelist>-bounces@<the site default email domain> and the latter have envelope sender of <sitelist>-bounces@<the list's host_name>. Nothing has changed in the way these messages from Mailman have been sent. What changed is the host's outgoing SMTP server started rejecting messages with envelope sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED] while continuing to accept those with envelope sender of [EMAIL PROTECTED] This created a symptom which was highly confusing to say the least. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp