On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:23:40PM -0600, Brad Knowles wrote:
> At 4:57 PM -0500 12/7/06, Alan McConnell wrote:
> 
> > Meanwhile, I am adminning(sp?), through my ISP, a new but quite active
> > E-list.  But their mailman install is incomplete; they haven't put in
> > Pipermail(about which I know _nothing_).
> 
> Uh, what version of Mailman is that?  I thought that Mailman had 
> fully integrated Pipermail along with the base code, for many years 
> now?  Are they running Mailman 1.x or something?
        mm 2.1.5 .  But under Debian, so it has experienced/endured the
        Debian security upgrade procedures.

> > and massage these messages and then ship them off to the new very
> > skilful tech staff that my ISP is allegedly hiring, and they will
> > be able to slip this collection adroitly into place.  And it will
> > be as if archiving was always in place . . .
> 
> So long as you save the messages in mbox format, and you have access 
> to the command-line, you can always use the "arch" tool to import the 
> old messages into the new archives.  The instructions for doing this 
> kind of stuff are in the FAQ.
> 
> But if you don't have direct command-line access to the server, then 
> you'll be dependant on the staff that do.  And from what you've 
> described, that's really the crux of the problem you're already faced 
> with.
        You are exactly right.  It is, like so many other things<g>, a
        political problem.  PatriotNet is a small ISP; its founder died,
        the widow sold to another, totally incompetent, company . . . but
        now it has passed to yet another company, which is known to have
        Linux/Unix competent people, and which makes good noises in re
        tech support.

Since you say "mbox format" and since my MUA is mutt, set up to use mbox,
I think/hope/believe I am OK . . .  but time will tell.

Many thanks to you and to the others who have chimed in.  This E-list is
wonderful; run the way a help list should be IMHO.

Best wishes,

Alan

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