Curt Siffert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>But now, when I try to send messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ,  
>I get
>an error message in my smtp-failure file that says it couldn't send to
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Why are you trying to send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] That
address should only be receiving bounces of mail sent from the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] list.

>Why is it trying to send to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?


It's not. See below.


>I don't know if I'm actually supposed to receive muse-bounces emails  
>under normal
>circumstances, but the bigger problem is that I get the exact same  
>error message
>in the logs when someone subscribes to my list and the system  
>attempts to inform
>me (as I have admin_notify_mchanges turned on).  I don't get informed  
>of new
>subscriptions.
>
>Everything else works fine.  Messages go to the list fine.  When I  
>subscribe or
>unsubscribe, I get informed via email.  When I switch the list to  
>require approval
>instead of confirmation, I do get notices of someone asking to  
>subscribe.  I get
>informed of a message held for moderation.
>
>Can someone fill me in on what might be happening here?  I actually
>thought I had this working a few days ago - maybe some list setting has
>messed this up?
>
>Here's the error message
>
>Mar 01 13:06:07 2007 (5334) SMTP session failure: 553, 5.3.0 <mailman- 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown, msgid: <mailman. 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


This message says a mailman crafted message of some sort processed by
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list (I get that from the msgid) was rejected
by the outgoing MTA. In this case, I believe that
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the envelope sender (not the
recipient) of the message (probably a forward to the list owner of an
unrecognized bounce, but that is just a guess based on your saying you
mailed to muse-bounces), and the outgoing MTA is rejecting the message
because it doesn't accept MAIL FROM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The sendmail maillog may have more information.

The underlying issue is the site list bounces address is used as the
envelope sender of various messages that otherwise might result in
loops if they were sent from the listname-bounces address and bounced.
When this is done, the domain of the list is used as the domain of the
sitelist-bounces address (probably wrong, but it is).

The bottom line is the [EMAIL PROTECTED] address should be
deliverable if only because that's the address on the listinfo
overview web page for the domain for the "If you are having trouble
using the lists, please contact" link.

Also, [EMAIL PROTECTED] has to be acceptable as an envelope
sender to the outgoing MTA.
 
-- 
Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>       The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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