On 27 Mar 2007, at 16:45, Mark Sapiro wrote: > I'd go back to 2.1.9 because you have the same problem with the Debian > package.
Okay - I've done that. In fact I also installed Python 2.5 from source rather than relying on Sarge's 2.4 port just in case it was that. I appear to have similar problems but... > Since your outgoing runner dies in the same way with both versions, > perhaps this is a Python problem, not a mailman problem. I do not suspect Python any more, but Postfix itself.,, > See > <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq04.073.htp> > for some debugging techniques. Hacking the SMTPDirect.py handler to increase the debugging information produced the following lines in logs/error (for sure this time - you were right it was logs/qrunner last time I quoted!): Mar 27 20:04:00 2007 qrunner(21277): connect: ('localhost', 25) ...ten times for each attempt to deliver anything, then the OutgoingRunner process is terminated. But when I deleted anything in qfiles (there was the "virgin" message from setting up the site list sitting there I think it was) and tried bin/qrunner -v -r Outgoing it workd and just sat there in foreground apparently. Until, in another shell, I removed and recreated the site list prompting it to try to send an outgoing message to the listowner. As soon as I bin/ mailmanctle start - ed after that Outgoing once again collapses with those same messages in logs/error. So, I tried telneting to port 25 on localhost and it drops the connection immediately. I tried telneting to hostname port 25 and it worked. So I've got postfix for some reason that I cannot fathom dropping connections from localhost to localhost. Postfix logs "warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 21392 killed by signal 11" at this point so I think the answer is not in this forum, but something to do with postfix. I guess I could maybe change the outbound mailhost somewhere in Mailman's config could I to see if that gets round it for now? Thanks again, Jock -- Jock Coats Warden's Flat 1e, J Block Morrell Hall, OXFORD, OX3 0FF w: +44 (0)1865 483353 h: +44 (0)1865 485019 m: +44 (0)7769 695767 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://jockcoats.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
