On Fre, 2008-01-25 at 06:41 +0000, Khalil Abbas wrote:
> Now this is the most logical and reasonale answer I've ever got ..
> this is what I call: a reply from a professional.. she's right, I have
> no idea that this is spamming.. all I know about spamming is those who
> send you repeatedly every once in a while, and all I wanna do is send
The problem is: If a sequence of unwanted mail is "spam", then even the
first mail of that sequence is "spam".
Apart from laws (which quite are different in different jurisdictions
when it comes to "spam"), most people live with their own definition of
"spam". And a "newsletter" for marketing people may very will be "spam"
for techies.
Personally I consider every invitation (I stopped counting long ago...)
to whatever service/social network/... coming from unknown people/email
addresses as "spam".
> a simple invite and that's all.. if this is spamming, then screw
> it .. I'm no programmer and no whiz.. somebody gave me this huge list
> of emails for money and said it will make people more aware of my site
> if I used it to invite them ..
Uh, I hope you didn't pay too much as most the addresses are probably
dead anyways (for one or the other reasons).
As for sending 1E6 emails[0] with mailman: mailman is probably the least
problem - it hands them over to whatever your local MTA[1] is. And the
MTA has the burden to deliver the mails.
And it makes no sense to implement e.g. a "sent at most 1 email per
second per destination domain" feature as the MTA afterwards may/will
(depending on configuration etc.) reorder it for whatever reason. That
time is better spent to tune your MTA[1].
As for "avoiding to be blacklisted": The blacklisting side defines the
rules if an IP-address (or whatever) is blacklisted. And these rules may
change over time ....
So there can't be a (really working) magic "avoid being blacklisted"
check box somewhere.
In theory one could make such a check box for every blacklisting
organization but that's in practice a lot of work (initially and
ongoing) to not violate others "rules" and thus too expensive to be
commercially interesting.
And I really doubt that there are people out there who do such a thing
for free (as in "free beer").
> anyways, thanks cyndi.. I really appeciate your help ..
[....]
> anyways, no harm done..
[ Fullquote deleted ]
Bernd
[0]: There such large installations (without spam intention) out there -
e.g. the linux-kernel mailing list has according to
http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html 4751 emails on it and sends
200-300 emails per day. That makes 950200 to 1425300 mails per day.
More "details" in http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/5/7/124 and the
following discussion.
LKML doesn't use mailman though.
[1]: as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_transfer_agent
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