Knut Auvor Grythe wrote: >On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 08:40:32AM -0700, Mark Sapiro wrote: >>> Now, I could probably have recovered in some other way, but that's >>> because I know python. Not all mailman users do, and I suspect they >>> would have severe difficulties recovering from such a situation. >> >> The recovery is something like: >> >> find lists/*/request.pck -mtime +365 -delete > >In my case, probably. But this doesn't change my point, you just have to >substitute "python" with "mailman". I certainly wouldn't know whether if >was safe or not to just delete request.pck files like that. That's why I >patched the upgrade script instead, since it seemed the safest approach.
Understood. I will probably add something to the UPGRADING document about this, but I don't know if that would have helped in your case since I don't know if Debian includes that in their documentation. >>> Also, even if they actually did notice this problem before the >>> upgrade, how would they solve it? If I was them I'd probably try to >>> upgrade to the latest version to see if the crashing stops, only to >>> see that the upgrade also crashes. >> >> I really don't think at this point (11 releases and over 5 years >> later) that there are that many people in your situation. > >That's your call. I am no longer in that situation, so I'll stop nagging >you about it :-) It is a hard call. In a real sense, I haven't fixed the bug I claim to have fixed. I have fixed the bug that was responsible for setting up the admindb/upgrade crash, but I haven't fixed the crash. On the other hand, the relative invisibility of this issue over the last 5+ years tells me your situation is rare. I'll continue to think about it. >> BTW, it seems that given your situation, you may have a large number of >> dead held messages. If you haven't done so, you might look at the FAQ >> at <http://wiki.list.org/x/nIA9> and remove them. > >That is indeed relevant in my situation. However, I just set >max_days_to_hold to 60 for all lists. Shouldn't that take care of it >automatically? Yes, that will take care of it. -- Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9