Bill Christensen wrote:
>
>Ok.  Here's the full list:  Hmmm, just noticed that this time around 
>config.pck has -rw-r----- instead of -rw-rw----  Looking back, most 
>of my other attempts had -rw-rw----
>
>-rw-r-----  1 nobody   mailman  372763 29 Sep 12:43 config.pck
>-rw-r-----  1 billc    mailman  372763 29 Sep 11:49 config.pck.bak
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372763 29 Sep 12:43 config.pck.last
>-rw-r-----  1 mailman  mailman  372695 29 Sep 11:48 config.pck.last.bak
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372695 29 Sep 12:20 config.pck.safety
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 27 Sep 21:15 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.1684
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 27 Sep 21:15 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.1691
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 27 Sep 21:15 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.1695
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 08:26 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20146
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20511
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372760 29 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20513
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 09:18 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20636
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372936 29 Sep 09:19 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20646
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 09:32 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.20837
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:26 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21470
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:28 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21507
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:51 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21536
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:51 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21539
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:30 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21558
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:46 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21741
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:46 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.21750
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:32 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22337
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:34 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22386
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:37 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22411
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:37 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22418
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:37 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22419
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:40 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22439
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:40 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22449
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372683 29 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22548
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:46 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22550
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 11:49 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22610
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372695 29 Sep 11:50 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22618
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372683 29 Sep 11:58 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22739
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372683 29 Sep 11:59 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22781
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372683 29 Sep 11:59 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22782
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372683 29 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22788
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372683 29 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22790
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372683 29 Sep 12:01 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22824
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372683 29 Sep 12:02 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22833
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 12:06 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22881
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372695 29 Sep 12:10 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22961
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372695 29 Sep 12:10 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.22962
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372360 29 Sep 12:16 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23012
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372360 29 Sep 12:17 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23022
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372360 29 Sep 12:17 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23025
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372360 29 Sep 12:19 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23043
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372496 29 Sep 12:21 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23078
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372496 29 Sep 12:32 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23307
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372496 29 Sep 12:33 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23343
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372496 29 Sep 12:35 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23395
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 12:44 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23544
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 12:44 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23552
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 12:53 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23659
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 15:44 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23686
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 12:55 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.23693
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372927 27 Sep 22:56 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.2502
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 27 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.25202
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372760 27 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.25204
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman  372760 29 Sep 15:44 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.25793
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 27 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.27123
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372760 27 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.27125
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 09:32 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.5356
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:19 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.5359
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 29 Sep 10:19 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.5362
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 28 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.6436
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372760 28 Sep 09:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.6438
>-rw-rw----  1 mailman  mailman  372760 28 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.7975
>-rw-rw----  1 root     mailman  372760 28 Sep 12:00 
>config.pck.tmp.ns2.greenbuilder.com.7977
>-rw-rw----  1 nobody   mailman    1505 29 Sep 15:44 pending.pck
>-rw-rw-r--  1 nobody   mailman    6595 29 Sep 11:32 request.pck


It looks like at least once, you had removed config.pck and Mailman had
fallen back to config.pck.last - this is where the config.pck.safety
came from.

It actually appears that some saves of the list are succeeding and that
maybe it is only the admin CGI that's failing.

Does the list appear to work otherwise?

What does

 ls -ld /usr/local/mailman/lists/aen

give: the permissions should be drwxrwsr-x and the group should be
mailman. The owner is normally root or the web server (nobody?)
depending on how the list was created.


-- 
Mark Sapiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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