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On Dec 24, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Brad Knowles wrote:

on 12/23/08 2:14 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull said:

And the primary maintainer of a piece of software which AFAIK
continues to be a source of backscatter might want to be a little
careful about suggesting that vendors be billed ....

We give the list owners and site administrator the option of choosing how to configure their lists. So, the choice of who to send the bill to would end there.

And to really solve the backscatter issue in this case would require that we integrate tightly enough into the MTA that the processing could be done while the sender is held open. The options in that space are mostly specific to a given MTA, although postfix also supports the sendmail milter interface in addition to the preferred policyd method.

If you wanted to be of service to the community, you could always write a milter in Python that would go through all the same checks that Mailman would do and indicate back to the MTA whether or not the message would be accepted.

Mailman 3 will also probably support LMTP as the default local delivery mechanism, which I think will address the same issues.

- -Barry

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