halil Abbas wrote: >I also forgot to mention something.. I'm managing 57 lists on 18 servers.. >some are small lists and some are huge but the thing in common is that they >all send a single message to their lists per day.. but I have put my own >email address (khillo100 at hotmail dot com) in all of the 57 lists.. and >everyday I receive between 30 and 40 emails from the lists but never 57! > >another thing in common is that all 18 servers never send directly, they go >thru the same relay server ..
I agree that mails are getting bounced/dropped, but I can't begin to guess why without seeing actual bounce messages and/or logs from the relay server and/or logs from your local MTA if you use a local MTA between Mailman and the relay server. You may need to talk to the operators of the relay. I know you did and they told you to rate limit your sending, but do they know that is the problem, or is that a non-response? If in fact you do have a local MTA which Mailman delivers to and which then relays to the relay server, you can investigate rate limiting there as discussed in the FAQ at <http://wiki.list.org/x/j4A9> to which you have been previously referred. Let us see some actual bounce messages. We know there are some because bounce processing is removing subscribers, so what do they look like? Also, have you followed up on my following suggestion to verify that all the owner addresses are deliverable. I.e., what happened to the nearly 3000 notices from BounceRunner that were indicated in the smtp log you sent me. >I also looked more closely at the smtp log you sent earlier. There are a >huge number of mailman generated notices that originate from >BounceRunner. All lists appear affected. I think these are unrecognized >bounce notifications. I have suggested before that there may be a large >amount of spam being sent to the LIST-bounces addresses, but there may >also be a mail loop of some kind. I suggest that you make sure that each >list's (including the 'mailman' list) owner attribute contains only >deliverable addresses and that none of the LIST-* addresses are among >them. Similarly, if there are any moderator addresses, they must be >deliverable and must not include any LIST-* addresses and shouldn't >duplicate any owner addresses for the same list. > >Also try sending an email to the LIST-owner addresses to verify such >mail is received. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
