Sorry, my wife's computer has been down for days, and in the meanwhile she as taken over mine. At this point, all I've got is an iPad and a semi-wonky server in the closet, and neither of them is well suited for keeping up with lots of email. I'll fix that when I get her computer repaired and back into her hands so that I can get my computer back, but until then I'm going to be even more of an absentee admin for this list than normal.
I may actually be getting a job soon doing Enterprise Mac OS X consulting, and if I do then I will let you folks know. If that happens, then I could potentially be available to do remote consulting for this kind of stuff through my employer. -- Brad Knowles Sent from my iPad On Apr 3, 2011, at 1:42 AM, JRC Groups <joemailgro...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks Brad and Mark for your helpful and detailed replies. > > I have reached a point where I have the lists almost working but there are > some issues still preventing the systems from functioning in a way that > allows me to confident to launch these lists I wish to create. > > Apple's support has been MIA at best so I have given up and decided to seek > other alternatives. Also, the numerous individuals I have spoken with at > Apple were clearly (1) not interested in making any improvements or fixing > the current issues with the version of Mailman that ships with OS X Server > and (2) didn't know any more about it than I do (which is quite embarrassing > considering they are part of the company's business support department). > > I can't imagine that there is anything other than some minor set-up issues > that need to be corrected with my system. After all, I am sending and > receiving e-mails and the lists are functional (to an extent anyway) as they > send and receive messages. However, as I stated above, I don't want to > launch the lists only to attract subscribers and then find out in a short > while that Mailman has stopped working because something with my system > wasn't set-up properly. > > I also can't imagine that it would be too difficult to install a new version > of Mailman and manage it using its browser-based interface while ignoring > Apple's System Administrator tool for this specific task. > > Brad, since you have this much experience with OS X Server would you be > interested in helping me with my problem ? In case you are, please contact > me off-list so that we can discuss it. I believe you should be able to > connect remotely, right ? In case you are not interested, would you > recommend me someone who is knowledgeable on both OS X Server and Mailman ? > I have contacted numerous Apple consultants but couldn't find a single one > who had any experience with Mailman. > > Thanks again for your helpful replies. > > Best regards, > > Joe > > --------------- > > On 3/30/11 5:36 PM, "Brad Knowles" <b...@shub-internet.org> wrote: > >> On Mar 30, 2011, at 6:15 PM, JRC Groups wrote: >> >>> Is there anyone on the list who is familiar with both OS X Server and >>> Mailman to help with this problem ? I am willing to pay a consultation fee >>> to someone who can connect to my server remotely and help solve this issue. >> >> I've been an Apple consultant, at least part-time. I came within a hairs >> breadth of doing that job full-time for a local Apple VAR. I've got all the >> PDF versions of all the official Apple documentation on Mac OS X and Mac OS X >> Server, as well as PDF versions of the good 3rd party books on the subject. >> And I've been a professional Unix system administrator and consultant for >> over >> twenty years. >> >> The guy who used to run lists.apple.com was involved in the development and >> support of Mailman long before I came along, and has more experience in the >> business than I do. >> >> I don't mean to sound pessimistic or to rain on your parade, but in both >> cases, the solution was to blow away the stuff that Apple ships, and to >> install the "real deal" code as downloaded from list.org. >> >> >> The Mailman project is freely available open source (under a GNU license, no >> less), and the support we provide is best effort. There is no commercial >> version of Mailman that we sell or officially support. Anyone else that >> includes Mailman as part of a commercial product or service that they sell, >> should include with that a full after-sales support staff. >> >> >> Note that there isn't going to be a separate "Server" edition of Mac OS X >> "Lion". >> >> No one seems to know if this means that all the stuff that the "Server" >> edition used to include will now be available to everyone, and that all the >> people who developed the "Server" edition of Mac OS X have been transitioned >> over to the mainline code development team, or if that means that a lot of >> products and services will get thrown out the door as Apple re-focuses >> exclusively on the retail/home user market. >> >> But that is certainly something that you should keep in mind as you look >> towards solutions in this space. >> >> -- >> Brad Knowles <b...@shub-internet.org> >> LinkedIn Profile: <http://tinyurl.com/y8kpxu> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org