On 2/24/2013 12:48 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > It appears that hotmail offers a free relay. Is that a viable alternative?
I tested two more freemail servers, AOL (smtp.aim.com) and Hotmail (smtp.live.com). Neither of these is viable as a Mailman outbound relay. AOL refuses to accept the mail unless both the envelope sender and the From: header address are addresses associated with the authenticating AOL/AIM account. In addition, AOL's server says this in it's reply to the connect: 220-mtaout-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com ESMTP MUA/Third Party Client Interface 220-AOL and its affiliated companies do not 220-authorize the use of its proprietary computers and computer 220-networks to accept, transmit, or distribute unsolicited bulk 220-e-mail sent from the internet. 220-Effective immediately: 220-AOL may no longer accept connections from IP addresses 220 which no reverse-DNS (PTR record) assigned. If you have an appropriate reverse-DNS, you probably should just be sending directly and not through a smarthost. Hotmail is a bit worse than Gmail. It accepts the mail but rewrites both the envelope sender and the From: including display name to the address and display name associated with the authenticating Hotmail/Live Mail/Outlook.com account. This differs from Gmail in that Gmail rewrites only the address in From: and not the display name. None of this is surprising to me. I think all large ISPs take similar measures in an attempt to avoid relaying spam with spoofed senders. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org