On 06/05/2013 07:49 PM, Janice Boothe wrote: > > > --- On Wed, 6/5/13, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > > :I'm not concerned about the users who will make their own customized, > :translated pages. I'm concerned about those who don't want to. > > Therein is the rub. This is (close to) the big issue that many have with > Microsoft. Their nazi programming practices boil down to 'you will use our > software the way we think it should look and you will like it" in that they > offer very little customization (think IE v. FF). As programmers we ought to > not be unconcerned with any of our end users.
The difference is it's open source, not Microsoft proprietary. If you want a feature that's not supported, you have the code and the right to modify it in any way you wish or to pay someone else to do it for you, and if you wish, contribute your code back to the project. Also, my attitude would be much different if we were talking about something that was not already at the end of its life cycle. If you peruse the archives of this list, you'll see that comparing the Mailman project's support and concern for users of our software even peripherally to Microsoft does us a great disservice. If I gave the impression that I was telling you that your issue was not important, I apologize. I have only been trying to explain why I'm not interested in doing this thing in this case. Of course, it would be much better if Mailman's entire web UI was much more easily customizable by end users. It is a worthwhile design goal that I think is embodied in Mailman 3, but when Mailman 2 was developed, just having a web UI at all was a major improvement over software like Majordomo, and much of the end user interface is template driven, just not all. As far as the subscribe results page goes, as I pointed out earlier in this thread <http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2013-May/075202.html>, it is fairly easy to add a style sheet to this page. Also, you could do what some others have done and create your own subscribe CGI, submit data from it to Mailman's subscribe CGI, receive the result from Mailman and parse it and present it to your user any way you like. -- Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org