Thanks Stephen. Are most mailman hosts finding their mail in Gmail heading to the "Promotions" tab or "Forums" optional tab?
Steven Clift On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <[email protected]> wrote: > Steven Clift writes: > > > Has this been a growing issue with Mailman served lists? > > I wouldn't say it's growing. For quite a while (a decade or so) we > have been getting the occasional request for help in getting mail > delivered to the major freemail services and portals, including Gmail, > Yahoo!, Hotmail, and AOL. I haven't noticed them getting more > frequent over time, nor have I had problems delivering to them with my > own lists (but I have a really easy set of users to service, most are > admins or oldtimers themselves and tend to blame their freemail > provider, not my lists). > > > If it is not a growing problem with Mailman lists, then what are > > you doing right!? > > Hard to say. For one thing, Mailman tries very hard to conform to the > relevant RFCs (specifically 5322, 2369, and 2919). > > Second, most Mailman lists are set up by professionals, either people > who are quite familiar with mail service including the kinds of things > that keep you from getting labeled as spam, or hosting services. Not > all of them are completely competent, but most do a pretty good job. > Most implement DKIM and/or SPF, for example. So there may be a > growing problem, and we just don't hear about it -- the host managers > are dealing with it themselves. > > Third, we do have a pretty good FAQ on how to communicate with the big > services to get on their good side. It's tedious to follow their > rules, but it does work most of the time. > > > (One factor for us is that we do have a lot of users who post via > > the web interface, which Gmail doesn't seem to like.) > > That doesn't surprise me. I assume that the from address is > "[email protected]" as they are registered with your service. If your > software is not emitting a correct Sender header, it will look like > the From address is spoofed. Gmail won't like that. Make sure that > in this case the Sender header is set appropriately. (Mailman doesn't > have a web interface, so doesn't have experience with this itself. > The most common third-party interface is Gmane, which does get the > headers right. Not everybody appreciates Gmane -- they have a habit > of mirroring lists whose owners don't want them mirrored -- but they > do conform to the mail standards.) > > Hope this helps. > > Steve ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
