(Not sent to list previously, apologies). On 25/05/2014 01:00, Richard Damon wrote: > The "problem" isn't DMARC, the problem is it's abuse by Yahoo and AOL. > These are big players, and it isn't really practical for lists to just > say they are breaking the rules so we won't let them play anymore. (If > only for the old days of usenet where abusive servers were given the > "death penalty" and they lost their connectivity for a while).
I t think your comments are compatible with DMARC being the "interloper", as Stephen put it. DMARC (whether in general or in terms of Yahoo's and AOL's use/misuse/abuse of it) is the interloper (i.e. newcomer) that is in practice impacting pre-existing and legitimate usage patterns. I agree that the idea behind DMARC is a good one the reality is less good. Whilst Yahoo and AOL are the ones who have chosen to use/misuse/abuse DMARC in this way, it could also be said that DMARC (and all its backers on its current form) are to blame precisely because DMARC *allows* Yahoo's/AOL's behaviour. If the standard has been properly finished and properly thought through from all angles then ways could surely have been found to allow it to be used without harming existing, standards-compliant behaviour. The consortium behind DMARC simply weren't willing to wait or play along. It seems that some of them were particularly desperate and were willing to harm interoperability. -- Mark Rousell PGP public key: http://www.signal100.com/markr/pgp Key ID: C9C5C162 ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org