On 06/21/2014 08:43 PM, Peter Fraser wrote:
>  And what did that log show for the sender non-delivery notification
> message generated as a result of the undeliverable message.
> I looked at the postfix logs again and although I do see different type of 
> bounces, I am not seeing anything delivered to mailman. Here are some 
> examples:
> Jun 20 04:11:30 poseidon postfix/qmgr[95432]: B7E0A3AC890: 
> from=<listn...@domain.com>, size=585098, nrcpt=500 (queue active)
> Jun 20 04:11:31 poseidon postfix/qmgr[95432]: B52323AC87E: from=<list 
> n...@domain.com>, status=expired, returned to sender


First of all, these should be from=<listname-boun...@domain.com>, not
from=<listn...@domain.com>. If your posts are really being sent with
envelope from <listn...@domain.com>, that means bounces will be returned
as list posts, not as bounces.

But, I'm still not seeing what I need to see. Taking the last above
message as an example, do

grep B52323AC87E /var/log/maillog

or whatever the log file is. In the last few lines, you should see one
that says

...postfix/bounce[...]: B52323AC87E sender non-delivery notification: xxxx

where xxx is another Postfix queue ID for the bounce DSN. Then grep the
log for that Queue ID, and what do you see?


> Here's one where it seems to send the bounced message back to ExchangeJun 20 
> 04:11:31 poseidon postfix/smtp[1539]: 35F9D3AC8A5: to=<listn...@domain.com>, 
> relay=hubtransport.domain.com[192.168.0.165]:25, delay=0.22, 
> delays=0.08/0.04/0.01/0.1, dsn=2.6.0, status=sent (250 2.6.0 
> <20140620091131.35f9d3ac...@mail1.domain.com> Queued mail for delivery)


If this is actually a report on one of those DSNs, it should be going
to=<listname-boun...@domain.com>, not to=<listn...@domain.com>. If the
envelope from of your outgoing posts is really <listn...@domain.com> and
not <listname-boun...@domain.com>, that would explain why bounces are
being processed and it might explain what the heldmsg files are (i.e.
bounces returned to the list and being held as non-member posts).

It this is what's happening, something is rewriting the envelope sender.
What, I have no idea.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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