Hi, I'm on a mailing list that recently switched the mailman DMARC setting to "Munge from". IMO, the munging of the From: line is fine as far as I'm concerned and I see how that fixes the DMARC problem.
However, what is really annoying is that it takes the original From: line and puts it on the Reply-To: line and there's no way to turn this off. I can't seem to find any explanation of why anyone thinks this is a good idea. Maybe someone here can explain it to me. Below is why I think it's a bad idea. Why can't we encode the original email address in a comment or quoted token on the From: line instead of jamming it onto Reply-To? This is how I'm seeing mailing list messages now: To: Hal Finkel <hfin...@anl.gov> cc: cfe-...@lists.llvm.org, Commit Messages and Patches for LLVM <llvm-comm...@lists.llvm.org> From: Lang Hames via cfe-dev <cfe-...@lists.llvm.org> Reply-To: Lang Hames <lha...@gmail.com> The reply-to is going to the sender instead of the list, which is making people cc the mailing list in order to get things to go back to the list. From what I read of DMARC, it's the munging of the From: line that is needed in order to have messages pass the DMARC checks. To me this makes sense -- the mailing list domain is sending the message to the list and the appropriate domain checks need to be made against the mailing list's domain, not the original author of the mailing list message. What I'm not understanding is how DMARC is mandating that Reply-To: go back to the original author, and not the mailing list, as is the usualy convention: public conversations from a mailing list cycle back to the mailing list by default and only fork into a private conversation when specifically requested. What's happening now is that people are doing "reply to all" in order to get the mailing list included, which makes *me* the recipient of their reply and the mailing list cc'ed. Then the mailing list software notices that the message was sent *to* an address already on the mailing list, so it doesn't send me a second copy of the message. This means that every time someone replies to my messages on the mailing list, and all subsequent replies in the thread because everyone else will do reply-to-all as well, I'll be getting all these private messages that are actually copies of the public messages but I won't be getting the public messages. This makes the entire List-Id field useless because none of these replies to threads in which I participate will come back to me through the mailing list, but instead as private copies of public messages sent to the mailing list. As a result, it basically screws up all mailing list filtering -- which was the whole point of the list-id field. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://ComputerGraphicsMuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://LegalizeAdulthood.wordpress.com> ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org