Thanks all for your quick replies.

Duly noted: Mailman lists are not Listservs. Also, not all tissues are Kleenex 
and not all adhesive tape is Scotch Tape -- but these copyrighted names all 
tend to get used as generic terms. :)

I have a dedicated virtual server with a shell login account and am allowed to 
update it. Unfortunately, my Unix skills are minimal and not up to attempting 
this on my own. I have managed other installations on my server when being 
walked through it, remotely, by an experienced person.

I looked at pricing for http://www.emwd.com, and at $4.50 per month per list, 
with 70+ lists, this would cost us in excess of $3780/year. We're a religious 
organization with the budget to match -- before I can get Diocesan Council to 
approve that type of budget increase for something we've had for free up until 
now, I first have to convince them I've exhausted every other option for fixing 
our current lists -- which means at least trying the update to see if that 
helps.

I'll look at the list of Mailman hosts to see if I can find something more 
affordable -- I would certainly love to outsource this task if I could -- but 
I'm still hoping to connect with someone who can assist me with the upgrade.

Many thanks,
Nina

Nina Nicholson
Director of Communications & Technology
The Episcopal Diocese of Newark
973-430-9907
http://dioceseofnewark.org
http://facebook.com/dionewark
http://twitter.com/dionewark

-----Original Message-----
From: Mailman-Users 
[mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Mark Sapiro
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] need assistance upgrading Mailman

On 08/23/2015 04:45 PM, Nina Nicholson wrote:
> I manage 70+ Mailman listservs for the Episcopal Diocese of Newark, and we 
> are having terrible problems with emails not being delivered because they 
> fail DMARC Evaluation, to the point that it's disrupting communications in 
> the diocese.


Please see <http://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20is%20not%20Listserv>


> Our listservs are hosted by MediaTemple which provides Mailman ver. 2.1.9. I 
> understand that if I were to upgrade to the latest version there are new 
> features that would solve this problem. I've found the upgrade instructions 
> (http://wiki.list.org/DOC/4.80%20How%20do%20I%20upgrade%20from%20Mailman%202.1.x%20to%20a%20later%20Mailman%202.1.y%3F)
>  but they are beyond my limited Unix skills. MediaTemple refuses to do the 
> upgrade.


Do you have a VPS with Mailman installed or are you on a shared host? If the 
latter, it is unlikely that you have the access necessary to upgrade Mailman on 
the host and it is unlikely that MediaTemple would be happy with your doing it 
even if you could.

You may wish to see
<http://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20hosting%20services>. I have no information 
on most of these, but based on interactions with the proprietor of EMWD and 
dotList, I can recommend them. This should not be construed as a negative 
review of anyone else on that list. It's just that I have no basis to evaluate 
most of them.

You may also find
<http://wiki.list.org/COM/Mailman%20consulting%20services> of interest.
Particularly the link to the Python jobs board.

Finally, you may wish to try one of the suggestions at 
<http://wiki.list.org/x/17891458> as an interim stopgap measure.

-- 
Mark Sapiro <[email protected]>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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