On 09/03/2015 07:21 AM, Nitin Sharma wrote: > > So I set up mailman ( mailman-2.1.15-21.20 ) and have my > SPF/DKIM/DMARC set for my domain.
I too have SPF and DKIM sign my outgoing mail, but I don't publish a DMARC policy. > All of the confirmation emails sent are classified under Gmail as > "Spam". The list postings however are correctly sent to Forum Tab. I just requested subscription of a gmail address to a list and the confirmation request arrived in my gmail inbox. > I see that "Precedence:bulk" is set on the confirmation emails, > whereas "Precedence:list" is set on the posting. I think that's okay. > > Confirmation emails are important and I want to increase the > likelihood of it not being classified as spam. Agreed. > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. Here are the headers of the message from my gmail inbox. Some lines may be wrapped, but otherwise this is an exact copy. Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: by 10.79.28.84 with SMTP id c81csp55822ivc; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 14:04:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.107.160.196 with SMTP id j187mr192882ioe.80.1441314247111; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 14:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from sbh16.songbird.com (sbh16.songbird.com. [72.52.113.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w5si175300igl.33.2015.09.03.14.04.06 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 03 Sep 2015 14:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 72.52.113.16 as permitted sender) client-ip=72.52.113.16; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of [email protected] designates 72.52.113.16 as permitted sender) [email protected]; dkim=pass [email protected] Received: from sbh16.songbird.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by sbh16.songbird.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6C111E0075 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 3 Sep 2015 14:03:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=grizz.org; s=default; t=1441314203; bh=yEUb4ckS6Fc1HbEAgDUhqOHNgu/RDCrA6+1VBSmCVRA=; h=From:To:Subject:Reply-To:Date:List-Id; b=Y29kTn45HV3hl9P8uVmdDoZFAm8kCCA9CFxj+sX9ip3gJcXktosI8ih86hSM55lxE af74YrR1zzc0RrnLaQLni1iIr+lErigt8zU5TcchUO3Xf+rdZzR/WNzPfFhdC/MtP9 KZy/l1rZWlB/RHDFxsM4xW1MIUmrNoUyJ0hl9Ix4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: wed_ride-confirm+1e5aa844ab20f780c82596c0f41b178ff5d9e...@grizz.org To: [email protected] Subject: Your confirmation is required to join the Wed_ride mailing list Reply-To: wed_ride-confirm+1e5aa844ab20f780c82596c0f41b178ff5d9e...@grizz.org Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2015 14:03:14 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 List-Id: GPC Wednesday Ride List <wed_ride.grizz.org> X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: [email protected] > I opened a discussion in here too , which contain all the headers - > https://productforums.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!msg/gmail/mxkNC3b_KK0/8xEoHtksLRoJ The only significant difference I see in headers is your Received: from ip-10-73-187-221.ec2.internal (mail.nypny.com. [2001:470:1f07:12b5::2]) by mx.google.com which I think says your MTA identifies itself in EHLO as ip-10-73-187-221.ec2.internal and not as mail.nypny.com. This could make a difference. > According to the Bulk sender's guidelines : > I have mostly all done correct except the below > 1. Unsubscribe option - Don't have it since confirmation email means > the user hasn't subscribed yet. > 2. Use the same address in the 'From:' header on every bulk mail you > send. - This on mailman's confirmation email is sent as > list+confirm+<vars>@domain , and this changes every time. Is there a > way to make this consistent? It is that way because you have VERP_CONFIRMATIONS = Yes in mm_cfg.py for 'friendlier' confirmations. You can remove that in which case the From: will be (in your case) From: [email protected] and the Subject: will be Subject: confirm+cf8341f8018591fef49bbfd5c5a8bf4a2f3b9066 Sending confirmations with that Subject: is probably just as bad as having some end up in spam. -- Mark Sapiro <[email protected]> The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org
