Ok, so maybe this has to do with the setup. The list is for a club who has shared hosting for web and email at HostRocket for wort.org. The list was always hosted somewhere else. They were having some other issues and I migrated the list to my server, davidtodd.info.
All the wort.org emails (even the list ones) are on the HostRocket server and they forward to the same address with a davidtodd.info domain. So wort-ow...@wort.org is at HostRocket and forwards to wort-ow...@davidtodd.info where the list is actually hosted. When users post to the list, they send to w...@wort.org, which forwards to w...@davidtodd.info...and on and on. Users have no issues posting to the list and sending an email to wort-ow...@wort.org (which forwards) works. An email to wort-ad...@wort.org successfully results in a bounce. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> wrote: > On 09/10/2015 08:17 AM, DT wrote: > > > > Test emails to -owner work internally from postfix and when sent > externally > > from gmail. > > > OK. > > > > Here's a link to all the log file snippets from the time of the subscribe > > request: > > https://gist.github.com/dmofot/c367151ba262f476c2c6 > > > > Any ideas where to start troubleshooting this issue? > > > There are things missing, perhaps because they didn't happen or because > you didn't include them. Here's what I see and what I expect. > > > Your smtp log: > Sep 09 14:41:45 2015 (7788) <mailman.0.1441824103.9593.w...@wort.org> > smtp to wort for 1 recips, completed in 0.052 seconds > > This is the notice being sent to wort-owner. There should be a > subsequent entry with the same message-id for 'n' recips where n is the > total number of owners and moderators. That is the delivery of the > message from wort-owner to the owners and moderators. > > log :: mail.log > > ... > Sep 9 14:41:45 davidtodd postfix/pickup[9566]: 79FF9C0727: uid=1001 > from=<wort-boun...@wort.org> > Sep 9 14:41:45 davidtodd postfix/cleanup[9597]: 79FF9C0727: > message-id=<mailman.0.1441824103.9593.w...@wort.org> > Sep 9 14:41:45 davidtodd opendkim[1226]: 79FF9C0727: no signing table > match for 'wort-ow...@wort.org' > Sep 9 14:41:45 davidtodd opendkim[1226]: 79FF9C0727: no signature data > Sep 9 14:41:45 davidtodd postfix/qmgr[8528]: 79FF9C0727: > from=<wort-boun...@wort.org>, size=1492, nrcpt=1 (queue active) > Sep 9 14:41:51 davidtodd postfix/smtp[9602]: 79FF9C0727: > to=<wort-ow...@wort.org>, > relay=mailroom5.hostrocket.com[66.147.229.200]:25, delay=6.2, > delays=0.02/0.01/5.4/0.73, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 OK > id=1ZZkJb-0003U2-Lm) > Sep 9 14:41:51 davidtodd postfix/qmgr[8528]: 79FF9C0727: removed > > > The above is the delivery of the message to wort-owner. It should be > delivered to a pipe "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman wort owner" to get > to mailman, not relayed to mailroom5.hostrocket.com. This may explain > the issue, but then how does mail simply sent to wort-owner work? > > > log :: error > > > You apparently have enabled smtplib debugging as in the FAQ at > <http://wiki.list.org/x/4030716>, but this tells us nothing new that we > don't already see in the smtp and mail.log logs. > > > log :: syslog > > And likewise syslog > > Bottom line - If you are showing everything, the notice to wort-owner is > being relayed to mailroom5.hostrocket.com and never gets to Mailman for > delivery to the actual owner and moderator addresses. > > -- > Mark Sapiro <m...@msapiro.net> The highway is for gamblers, > San Francisco Bay Area, California better use your sense - B. Dylan > ------------------------------------------------------ > Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ > Unsubscribe: > https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/dmofot%40gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org